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698955
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Post by
perculia
Feel free to email
feedback@wowhead.com
and include a screenshot. I haven't seen any issues with the models in Safari, but there could be issues elsewhere.
Post by
Alkony
Same problem for me in Chrome.
Also trying Firefox, but I've got NoScript installed and it's interfering even more. Trying to gather enough data for the email to be helpful. Looks like it may be related to a script from cloudfront.net?
Email sent.
Edit: I just got curious and went to
http://www.wowhead.com/news=204968/mists-of-pandaria-pvp-gear-preview
and tried the model viewer there. Same odd behavior. 3D viewer on item pages works fine for both Live and Beta sections. Google search for cloudfront.net shows that it has been associated with malware distribution in the past.
On Topic:
Cloth set looks awesome. Leather is kinda meh, but my druid is my main, so will probably be into the VP gear fairly fast anyway.
Post by
Interest
Those sets look very nice. I usually don't say that about equipment =).
Post by
Azrile
I agree that reputation requirements for JP and VP gear don't seem to make very much sense. I find it very odd that Blizzard struggled with creating an agreeable niche for head/shoulder enchants without forcing a grind on players... to the extent that they are no longer even related to factions anymore. Now we see that they're just replacing one forced reputation grind for another. This is made even more silly by the fact that it's the
exact same patch
in which they've removed the faction enchants!
That's part of what I'm saying too; it just boggles the mind that they would push a philosophy of "you're free to do whatever you want at endgame" and then tie JP/VP rewards in with questing/dailies. Because, yes, even if I myself will be doing plenty of questing and dailies, I know a lot of people who
aren't
, who hate dailies with a passion and/or prefer to level through BGs or dungeons. While we certainly want to get people out into the world in order to encourage World PvP, you don't accomplish that by
forcing
it onto people who are just there to fulfill requirements for something else.
Take a guy who is forced to go out and do quests/dailies in order to get to Revered for a faction so he has something to spend his Valor on
at all
, mumbling and grumbling all the while, not thrilled to be there in the first place, and then he gets ganked by a Rogue. Is he going to say "Oh man, finally some world PvP!"?
NO!
He's going to get pissed off that he's having to go out of his way just to get gear for his raids and now there's
even more of a hassle
for him to deal with.
How does this make sense? Like,
at all
?
Do you people even bother to read what other people write or just start complaining when you have like 10% of the information
You get epic gear at revered with the faction. You will not have to ´grind´ dailies at all. Quest through the zone and do a few days of dailies. You guys just are not doing the math.. This isn´t Ogri´la where you have 4 dailies and have to do them every day for two months. You quest through a zone ( 3-4 hours) and then come back and spend 20 minutes the next few days.
But here is the kicker.. but alas, I am sure you aren´t reading posts anyway.. You have 2-3 weeks to do those dailies? You know why? Because the freakin gear costs 2000 VP and you can only earn 1000 VP per week. So there is really NO NEED to ´grind´ that oh-so-difficult revered rep the first week.. because guess what.. you won´t have the VP to buy crap from the faction vendors anyway. Spend 20 minutes doing dailies the first week, and 20 minutes the second week... OMG.. SO MUCH GRINDING.
And the really REALLY good part... If you hate questing and dailies... guess what.. You can just freakin RAID.. It will be 2-3 weeks before anyone can buy even ONE PIECE of rep epics.. In that time, you will have 2 lockouts of raiding.... wow.. how great is it that if you hate dailies and hate questing.. you will be able to get gear..
Rep reward gear is set up to be progression for people who like questing and will be doing heroics. The slow rate at which people can earn VP means that reputation epics are NOT REQUIRED to start raiding.
So if you raid, you do heroics then start raiding.. If you don´t raid, you do quests, dailies quests and heroics.
Seriously, I undestand now why raid leaders have to macro ´ don´t stand in the fire´ for raiders.
Post by
AngelicMew
I'm loving the cloth armor, but none of the others. The again, this is just the starter gear of MoP. Thank goodness for Mogging.
Post by
698955
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Post by
Adamsm
It makes 'sense' for the simple reason that things like the head enchants did mean you would end up running endless freaking hated dungeons for that rep: Keepers of Time back in BC was the only tank enchant and those instances sucked massive ass, and there was no other way to get the rep. In Wrath at least you had the tabards..but to get some of them, you had to run instances or do endless dailies(oh look). Then Cata came around...and you had two zones that are hated by most of the player base: Vashj which was needed to get the Earthen Ring tabard and Deepholme to get the Therazane crap(mind, I enjoy Deepholme).
The fact is though, in MoP you have a choice of where you want to go do the rep grinds and at least you know what is waiting for you, compared to the annoyances that existed in Cata.
Also, there's still the simple fact that if you want the gear, you'll have to buckle down and grind, same as every other expansion....and really, aren't the rose coloured glasses crew screaming for a return of this method? Myself, I am looking forward to this, since I enjoyed the dailies I did on Beta...and unlike Molten Front, the Tourney and the Isle, at least there is going to be some randomness to what dailies you'll end up doing. And of course, since you can go to the Shrines in the Vale and check to see what dailies are up for the day, you'll have a choice on whether to do them or not: I know there were quests at the White Tiger Temple I skipped, since they were buggy as hell but at least I had the alternate Cradle of Chi'ji to keep working on my August Celestial rep.
So, really: If you want to run dungeons for your VP, you can do that. But some people will have to buckle down and do some questing to get up to Revered if they want the good stuff; that's just the nature of the game.
Post by
Tenjen
and it doesnt really take all that to get to revered, it was always exalted thats the real grind but revered is almost automatic.
Post by
698955
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Post by
Adamsm
It doesn't matter if that gear requires Revered, Exalted or even Honored; the fact still stands that it's forcing players into content. Without the rep tabards, players are being
forced
to quest and do dailies for their rep, which is
the exact same practice
Ghostcrawler said he wants to avoid.
I'm not objecting to the grinding, I'm objecting to people being forced into content they don't want to do.
No, GC and Blizzard said they wanted to stop people from being forced to do specific rep grinds to get specific enchants such as the head and the shoulders. The simple fact is, if you want this gear, you'll have to dip into questing...but since again, just from doing the zone quests gets you to both level 85 and usually half way into Honoured anyways, you'll only have to do a couple days of 10 minute dailies to get to revered.
Seriously, this isn't as game breaking as everyone thinks it is, and since you'd be questing anyways, it's not that huge of an issue either.
Post by
298296
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Post by
Gilboa2004
...Tanks in LFG that were in full PvP gear .... hm...
Post by
yukonjack
I agree that reputation requirements for JP and VP gear don't seem to make very much sense. I find it very odd that Blizzard struggled with creating an agreeable niche for head/shoulder enchants without forcing a grind on players... to the extent that they are no longer even related to factions anymore. Now we see that they're just replacing one forced reputation grind for another. This is made even more silly by the fact that it's the
exact same patch
in which they've removed the faction enchants!
Personally this doesn't affect me too much, as i'm a one-character player. My alts are predominately for professions. For an altoholic, or someone who just doesn't enjoy questing... this looks to be somewhat of a headache - a
very
similar headache to one they've only just removed...
Reminds me of the saying where the left hand doesn't know what the right hand is up to. Or maybe they're just a little sadistic.
Very well put. I was going to write a post for this thread but after reading yours I don't have to.
Edited to add: To all the people belittling and disregarding the opinions of the poster I quoted please remember just becasue getting to revered with a faction is perfectly acceptable to you doesn't mean it isn't a valid concern for players that that do not enjoy questing.
Post by
Rieper
It annoys me that tanks can put out high amounts of dps. They are there to Agro, take damage and stop the rest of the group from taking it. Dps is there to do the reverse role so why are tanks dealing just as much damage as dps.
I hate seeing tanks in 5 mans doing the same dps and some times more even though there geared similar. I've tanked and dps'd and have seen it from both sides. I see this as an imbalance and hope it'll be addressed.
Post by
HyGamma88
i want female toons to have bigger b00bs xD ~ new character models :)
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916569
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Post by
Emmeline
Love, love, love the cloth sets. Any idea what the helm is for those so we can watch for it?
Post by
Azrile
Ok, you are right. You busted me. If someone doesn´t want to Raid, doesn´t want to use LFR, Doesn´t want to pvp, and doesn´t want to quest.. well they will have no way to upgrade their gear beyond heroic drops. But really, do we really have that huge a contingent of players that hate raiding and hate questing, and want to do nothing but heroic dungeons non-stop from the moment wow launches? I mean, not even the first 2 weeks do some quests?
But you also glossed over the fact that the Rep epics ONLY require revered faction, which you can get in a few hours and the devs are practically writing big letters on the gear telling you NOT TO GRIND.. because no matter what, you can´t afford that gear for a few weeks anyway.
The number of players you are trying to defend is abysmally small. You really believe there are players who don´t want to quest through zones, don´t want to raid, but do want to grind heroics non-stop?... and if there are, you think it is such a huge inconvenience to make them spend a few hours, spread out over 3 weeks doing some daily quests?
And if you are trying to include raiders on your side, forget it,, again rep gear costs VP, VP is capped at 1k per week, Raiders will have 2-3 lockouts, plus 1-2 LFR weeks to get gear before anyone will be buying this rep gear. This is not other expansions where it is even possible to have a full set of rep epics your first lockout. Your worse case scenario if you hate quests totally is that on your second raid lockout, you may have a heroic blue item while someone else has 1 Rep epic...That is the absolute worst case for someone who refused to do any quests. 1 item, 20ish ilevels lower.
Post by
iamleejn
Anyone else getting annoyed with the blizzard art team? Too many awesome transmog sets to pick from!
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