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Post by
tarumi
My subscription expired back in May. I have only Icecrown to complete to get my Loremaster title. I just saw that patch 5 is coming to PTR and wanted to know how these pre-expansion patches affect Loremaster.
Do i have to complete this achievement asap or do I have until MOP's official launch? I don't want to find out that once patch 5 comes live that I'll have to wait until all the mop zones and Icecrown are done to get my title.
Post by
Adamsm
It doesn't, since MoP has no effect on the Azeroth/Outland/Wrath/Cata zones.
Post by
yukonjack
I do not know the answer to your question and with all due respect to Adamsm you might be best served getting an official answer to your question, before making any decisions.
Post by
Rankkor
Wrong adams
Every time a new expansion is released, Loremaster is updated to include the new cluster of quests in order to get the title. If you had loremaster prior to the expansion, you keep it, but if u didn't had it, you need to complete the new zone.
proof?
Loremaster was added when WOTLK was released and it only asked to complete kalimdor Ek, outland and northrend.
Cue cataclysm, and now it requires completing all the cata quest achievements as well.
once MoP rolls out, it will require the MoP achievements as well, so my suggestion tarumi is to hurry up and get loremaster before MoP rolls out.
If you don't hurry, when MoP is released you will need to complete Icecrown as well as every single pandaria zone.
Post by
Adamsm
Loremaster reset for Eastern Kingdom and Kalimdor when Cata originally came out, due to the changes in those zones. MoP does not affect any of the previous expansions zones, so there shouldn't be a reset this time around either.
The only thing that's going to happen, is with the achievements being made account wide, if he's finished Icecrown on another toon, it's going to count towards this toon that he is trying to get the Loremaster on, awarding him completion of it, but it may not ding the actual Loremaster achievement.
Edit: Er...well ^&*!, forget about that part of it lol.
Post by
Rankkor
Loremaster reset for Eastern Kingdom and Kalimdor when Cata originally came out, due to the changes in those zones. MoP does not affect any of the previous expansions zones, so there shouldn't be a reset this time around either.
The only thing that's going to happen, is with the achievements being made account wide, if he's finished Icecrown on another toon, it's going to count towards this toon that he is trying to get the Loremaster on, awarding him completion of it, but it may not ding the actual Loremaster achievement.
ejem, I wasn't talking about the Kalimdor&EK reset, I'm talking about this achievement
Loremaster of Cataclysm
being required to get loremaster.
Those are the NEW (not revamped) catazones, and those were required to get the title (unless you already had it on WOTLK)
MoP isn't gonna reset the kalimdor&Ek&Outland&Northrend, but it WILL add a new Meta-Achievement: Loremaster of Pandaria, and that meta-achievement is gonna be required for loremaster (much the same way as Loremaster of Cataclysm was required)
IF you wait for the new expansion to be released, you will need this achievement
Loremaster of Pandaria
to get the title.
Post by
Adamsm
Yeah I know Rank, I forget about that aspect. I had a brain-fart there.
Post by
tarumi
Thank you all. I couldn't ask on the official forums since I don't have an active account anymore, so I'm locked from posting.
It looks like based on your comments that the new zones won't be factored into the achievement until MOPs official launch so I can wait a couple more weeks before resubbing to finish Icecrown.
Post by
Nulgar
Well, the 5.0 PTR appears to be identical to the Beta Client, especially in terms of achievements - though I don't know for sure, as I'm in the Beta and can't get the PTR to run, it only redirects me to the Beta Client.
Anyway, I wouldn't be so sure that Loremaster isn't updated until Mists itself launches - Cataclysm was more of less a special case since the 4.0 prepatch was still quite different from 4.0.3a which was released a week before launch.
Previous prepatches already introduced the expansion contents some weeks before, not just the talents/spell overhauls.
Looking at 3.0 and WotLK,
achievements
came with
Patch 3.0.2
on Oct 14th '08 (EU: 15th) while
WotLK
launched on Nov 13th.
PS: Even the ships/zeppelins to Northrend were already in place, anyone who played at that time should remember trying to get to Northrend :P
Post by
Sas148
I believe Blizzard said accounts with Beta access will not be able to participate in the PTR.
Post by
Adamsm
Aye, 5.0 is going to roll over all the achieves.
Post by
Nulgar
I believe Blizzard said accounts with Beta access will not be able to participate in the PTR.
Selecting the other account in the Beta Client login, I see the PTR servers. Could log into Nobundo (KR), the only responding server. Level 1, got a pet from the mail to get an achievement and enable the window, Loremaster includes
. So the clients are indeed identical. (Let's hope they enable those pre-events on the Beta servers as well)
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