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apocalypsa
What iala said about botting is actually the description of multiboxing, and is perfectly fine. Botting is using external hard or software to control your character - without you even providing imput. Simply detributing said imput amongst multiple wow-clients through external soft/hardware is multiboxing - and not bannable.
But srsly. 5 normal people>one 5boxer. ALWAYS. Yeah, he has more coordination than the average pugger - but thats not very hard. Theres endless ways to exploit the fact that only one human being is controlling those characters, and I'm quite sure anyone can figure those out.
What exactly is the difference between a group of people who always stay together and /assist their leader, and a multiboxer?
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Nathanyal
@OP
Okay..so your problem is MULTIBOXING, right? A bunch of chars, being controlled by 1 person, that's the problem? Okay, il make a premade of 15 shamans, no multiboxing, but we will stack, and attack like multiboxers do. That's not a problem, is it?
/facepalm @OP
Is this a troll or are you really so stupid that you cannot comprehend the clear difference between multiboxing and teamwork?
First, no reason to multi-post when you can easily edit your first one. Secondly calling people names isn't necessary.
It has been said once, multiboxing isn't cheating. There is hardly any difference from 5 characters being controlled by one and 5 characters being controlled by separate people that work well together. When doing a random BG teamwork can be hard to come by. But if you do premades then you should have an easier time handling those that multibox.
It would be cheating if he had the computer play his other 4 characters while he only played one. But that isn't the case, he is in directl control all 5 of them on his on. By pressing a button he can do 3 attacks, a heal and a CC on someone.
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Nathanyal
/facepalm
Well since you only put that, I take it as I made a valid point and you can't come up with any other reason for Multiboxing to be cheating.
Post by
Poolie72
Having read past post in this thread, it seems some people have a twisted idea of what makes Multi boxing ok. Having 15 shammy in a pre-made all controlled by different ppls. You wouldn’t get the same results and you know it.
I’ve read arguments for and against it.
Still comes down to cheating, whether you agree or not.
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Nathanyal
/facepalm
Well since you only put that, I take it as I made a valid point and you can't come up with any other reason for Multiboxing to be cheating.
Alternatively, I'll take a hint from Obi-Wan Kenobi and stop arguing with a fool.
It not arguing its discussing. If your only point is that it is cheating, then you don't have a good point. There are many others who post the exact same thing. If Blizzard thought it was cheating they would get rid of it, even despite them losing those subs. Like I said already, cheating would be if they had a computer play the other 4 accounts without any input from the player, but that isn't how it plays out. All 5 are controlled from him directly.
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Revived
for blizzard is cash that flows in :D gogo multiboxers
Post by
Nathanyal
My argument was clear: multiboxing is
not
the same thing as teamwork. This point is clear to EVERYONE except the multiboxers.
And why does Blizzard allow such a blatant unfair exploit? $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
Multiboxing isn't the same thing as team work, that's right. But it is hard to get players to work together in a team in a pugged BG. If the players were to work together then they would be much better then a multiboxer. Like it has been said many times, those that do a BG hardly ever listen to what others say and do what they want. Such as those that just kill others in the middle in WSG, fight on roads in AB, stay on the flag in EoTS and not cap towers, etc.
The only exploit they are using is they have more cash to spend than others and have their computer setup to run multiple things.
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b4xx
/facepalm
Well since you only put that, I take it as I made a valid point and you can't come up with any other reason for Multiboxing to be cheating.
Alternatively, I'll take a hint from Obi-Wan Kenobi and stop arguing with a fool.
It not arguing its discussing. If your only point is that it is cheating, then you don't have a good point. There are many others who post the exact same thing. If Blizzard thought it was cheating they would get rid of it, even despite them losing those subs. Like I said already, cheating would be if they had a computer play the other 4 accounts without any input from the player, but that isn't how it plays out. All 5 are controlled from him directly.
My argument was clear: multiboxing is
not
the same thing as teamwork. This point is clear to EVERYONE except the multiboxers.
And why does Blizzard allow such a blatant unfair exploit? $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
You're right, it's not the same thing as teamwork, it's less effective. Wonder why there are no multi-boxers in high rated arenas? Oh that's right, they get annihilated by every team that has even tiny communication and skill. That's why they roll normal bgs, to pewpew some bad people.
If you're alone fighting five enemies, I'd say that you have the disadvantage, whether the enemy is a multi-boxer or not. However, five multi-boxers versus a premade of five would definitely give the premade an upper hand. Multi-boxing lacks all the goods of PvP, and thus is severely weaker than premades.
Multi-boxer has the element of surprise, but when it's gone, and everyone realizes that there's a multi-boxer in their BG, the boxer is the one getting pewpew'd.
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Nathanyal
You're right, it's not the same thing as teamwork, it's less effective. Wonder why there are no multi-boxers in high rated arenas? Oh that's right, they get annihilated by every team that has even tiny communication and skill. That's why they roll normal bgs, to pewpew some bad people.
If you're alone fighting five enemies, I'd say that you have the disadvantage, whether the enemy is a multi-boxer or not. However, five multi-boxers versus a premade of five would definitely give the premade an upper hand. Multi-boxing lacks all the goods of PvP, and thus is severely weaker than premades.
Multi-boxer has the element of surprise, but when it's gone, and everyone realizes that there's a multi-boxer in their BG, the boxer is the one getting pewpew'd.
No.
The 5 multiboxed Blood DKs are going to back-cap IBT and TP with ease in every PUG AV they do. They're going to laugh at anyone who tries to stop them carrying the flag in WSG/TP. They going to "solo" cap Farm/LM/GM/ST/LH/WW/Mines with ease in AB and BfG. They're going to one-shot tanks in SotA.
Stop pretending this is okay just because of high-end premades and Arenas will have the experience/gear/vent/addons/strategy to fight back once the multiboxer has steamrolled their way to the higher echelons of RBGs and Arena. The overwhelming majority of us suffer at the hands of the multiboxing exploit, and you know it.
It cracks me up that anyone tries to defend multiboxing, let alone actually believes that multiboxing is defensible.
And lets see, if we took 5 individual players they would still be able to do all of that stuff with ease. It is just easier to coordinate 4 other players if you're controlling them. So either you make premades with people that will listen to what you say or hope that those 4 others helping you have a clue as to what they are doing.
And what cracks me up are people thinking its cheating when its just a different way to play the game. They don't have to rely on others, I know at some times I wish I was able to multibox so I don't have to deal with idiots when I do BGs.
Post by
Puntardlier
Do I feel multiboxing is bogus? Absolutely. But who cares really? You see them 1 in 20 bgs and you can always choose not to play the bgs with boxers in it! Keyword there is: choose; crazy idea...I know.
Post by
DavidIsaak
Oh the self-righteous bull in this thread.
So on one hand you have one guy with 5 accounts, all shamans for example. They target one guy at a time and nuke them down fast. You consider this to be cheating.
On the other hand, here is 5 people. They all roll shaman, They join a bg together and the leader tells them what target to focus and they all attack it at once. Same results but this is totally ok ,even thou the group of 5 players have far greater chances to handle any situation.
If you can't address this point then you have no credibility.
Edit: I think what bothers you is that you see it as 1 guy killing stuff versus five guys killing stuff. If you would consider one char to be one account then it's virtually no difference between the scenarios.
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Nathanyal
And lets see, if we took 5 individual players they would still be able to do all of that stuff with ease. It is just easier to coordinate 4 other players if you're controlling them.
So either you make premades with people that will listen to what you say
or hope that those 4 others helping you have a clue as to what they are doing.
And what cracks me up are people thinking its cheating when its just a different way to play the game. They don't have to rely on others, I know at some times I wish I was able to multibox so I don't have to deal with idiots when I do BGs.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C6Whn1RKTVA
I know the video is from old content but it does kinda refute your point. I just came across this video the other day and it almost makes me wanna roll a rogue.
What I am saying is that in a pug group, it is easier to control 4 others if you are multiboxing. If you're not multiboxing, trying to get 4 others to listen won't happen as well. Now if you roll premade groups, like I said once already (note the underline), having people listen to you won't be that hard.
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