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Azazel
Feral druids nerf. Can't wait for it. Oh, and the QQ feeds me.
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105944
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Post by
Modibybob
I play a frost magejokeold$%^&ing stupid.
Post by
tuckmuck203
As for hamstring, I'm saying that if you got out of hamstring, you're still only going to be moving as fast as the warrior, so you'd need a burst of speed to get out of it.
And why is it bad that worgen can do this, but okay that goblins can do the same thing? Not sure there's any logic to follow here.
Plus, bladestorm is used to get out of snares more than just as a damaging ability nowadays.
The many uses of bladestorm notwithstanding, now you're just arguing in circles. Did you forget the bladestorm scenario was your example to begin with? Play better and you won't be defeated by the other guy's toolset.
While alliance have to go around the bend in the river, they can still mount through it at 200% walking speed.
Swim speed is swim speed, not movement speed or mounted movement speed. Human on his horse in the water moves as fast as an orc swims.
That's like saying "Don't be bad." It's obvious, and completely unhelpful. What if you're distracted, or you jump too soon by accident.
Don't be distracted, and don't jump too soon by accident.
No, seriously, I'm not being a smartass. It
is
obvious but there's no helpful way to put it. If you make a mistake it only stands to reason that it takes time to correct it. So don't make the mistake.
Hell, the Horde tower stairs in AV are too narrow and sometimes while sprinting or chasing someone I screw up and fall off. Clearly, AV is biased in favor of the Horde, otherwise it would be impossible for me to walk off the side!
You're clearly misinterpretting what I'm saying. I don't htink the current owrgen racial is overpowered, I think that the worgen racial will be overpowered in the next patch. As I've stated many times.
About the jump, I shouldn't HAVE to be penalized for not staring at the exact spot that I need to hit at and angle I need to be coming from in order to get ot the flag from waterworks when the alliance can just run over.
I fall off the sides of horde towers in AV too, and I'm horde. Just because they're horde towers doesn't make horde immune to making mistakes when guarding them.
I fail to see your point about swim speed and mounted speed. I was pointing out that if it takes me 10 seconds to swim through the river, it'll take alliance roughly a second ot cover the same distance. Yes, these numbers are arbitrary, but you get my point, I hope.
Battle for gilneas is unbalanced because horde are peniazed for not staring at minute details at thier screen, while the alliance can just literally walk directly from one base to another.
I'm not arguing in circles by pointing out bladestorm's use, I'm saying that if a warrior bladestorms, and he's a good warrior, he will be using it so that I can't slow him and he's hitting me. Now, if I didn't have blink, I would eat the full damage of this, assuming I'm not a goblin, and ice block isn't up. However, if I were a goblin, there's still a chance for the rocket belt to glitch and hit some spec of dust, and then I'll still be eating it.
Modibybob, I fail to see your point. Frost mages aren't faceroll, it's not just spamming icelance, and you should really just shut up before you embarrass yourself further.
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tuckmuck203
Alliance on my server hasnt had TB more than twice in a row since the second week of cata. If everything was balanced the horde would whine that beating the alliance was too easy. They have to balance incompetence somehow.
Being facetious aside, come on man. You spout conspiracy theories and expect people to take you seriously and say "Why of course Tuckmuck, blizzard does love Alliance more! Lets burn down their server buildings!"
I fail
I should really just shut up before I embarrass myself further.
I still need to practice my goshad style quoting v.v
First, I'm not spouting conspiracy theories. I'm saying that alliance is going to be a better choice than horde in the next patch, and asking oppinions on whether I'm right or wrong, and here's the key part, and
WHY.
First, you start debating with me logically. Then, all of a sudden, you go ad hominem on me. At least goshadstep2lose finished the debate before going to baseless ad hominem arguing.
I'm tempted to requote you, and "fix" it, but I'm not going to stoop to that level.
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tuckmuck203
I'm tempted to requote you, and "fix" it, but I'm not going to stoop to that level.
Yet you made this thread which is completely retarded.
Yet you made this comment which is equally retarded.
Just because I play horde and think they alliance have an easier time doesn't mean that I don't have any basis for this, which you all might have noticed had you actually read the damn thread.
Stop jumping on the bandwagon to up your post count. There's not a single valid reason for you all to be attacking me personally when I've brought up and defended my arguments successfully. When I say valid, I mean any reason that doesn't have to do with internet egoism, fitting in with "peers" over the internet, and makes logical sense beyond the fact that you have nothing better to do.
Stop patting yourselves on the back by insulting me, because it's really just stupid on your part. You have no basis that my statement isn't true beyond the fact that you believe blizzard is trying to make things as fair as possible. Which may be true. All I'm saying is that they're doing it wrong.
Post by
Monjaru
The sell:
I'm not spouting conspiracy theories. I'm saying that alliance is going to be a better choice than horde in the next patch, and asking oppinions on whether I'm right or wrong
The reality:
Hey guys, I made a thread in which I've proven the fact that Blizzard favors the Alliance. It's called "Alliance Favoritism Proven". What do you $%^&ers on Horde side think about
that
? >:D
Post by
Astygia
First, I'm not spouting conspiracy theories. I'm saying that alliance is going to be a better choice than horde in the next patch, and asking oppinions on whether I'm right or wrong, and here's the key part, and
WHY.
You've been disagreed with, and told why. You respond to every counterpoint with more weakness, essentially saying 'if I mess up, x racial ability or y rock in the water is unfair to me'.
Don't mess up, problem solved.
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681143
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Post by
tuckmuck203
The sell:
I'm not spouting conspiracy theories. I'm saying that alliance is going to be a better choice than horde in the next patch, and asking oppinions on whether I'm right or wrong
The reality:
Hey guys, I made a thread in which I've proven the fact that Blizzard favors the Alliance. It's called "Alliance Favoritism Proven". What do you $%^&ers on Horde side think about
that
? >:D
It is favoritism. When one side is more powerful than the other due to game designer decisions, it's favoritism. Maybe not on the side of the developers, but it's favoritism on the side of the playerbase. Everyone who isn't a hordecore pvper will switch to alliance, thus the favoritism.
First, I'm not spouting conspiracy theories. I'm saying that alliance is going to be a better choice than horde in the next patch, and asking oppinions on whether I'm right or wrong, and here's the key part, and
WHY.
You've been disagreed with, and told why. You respond to every counterpoint with more weakness, essentially saying 'if I mess up, x racial ability or y rock in the water is unfair to me'.
Don't mess up, problem solved.
And you've been told why your "solution" is completely invalid. I'm not looking to know how I can get past this, I'm pointing out the problem. As I've stated before, the problem is that I have to watch where I jump, and if my keyboard glitches out, if my dog bumps my elbow at the wrong time, if my mother drops something in the kitchen at the wrong time, I'm most likely going ot be penalized for it by having to wade through the water. The alliance, on the other hand, will be able to just keep walking.
I'm tempted to requote you, and "fix" it, but I'm not going to stoop to that level.
Yet you made this thread which is completely retarded.
Just because I play horde
Stopped reading it here.
Edit: 1 minute astygia!
Oh goody. Yet another postcount padding completely uninformative and useless poster. Maybe next time you can even put a baseless oppinion in there!
Edit: Oh, and if I really were a horde QQer I would go back to my old server where I have alliance level capped characters.
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681143
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tuckmuck203
The sell:
I'm not spouting conspiracy theories. I'm saying that alliance is going to be a better choice than horde in the next patch, and asking oppinions on whether I'm right or wrong
The reality:
Hey guys, I made a thread in which I've proven the fact that Blizzard favors the Alliance. It's called "Alliance Favoritism Proven". What do you $%^&ers on Horde side think about
that
? >:D
It is favoritism. When one side is more powerful than the other due to game designer decisions, it's favoritism. Maybe not on the side of the developers, but it's favoritism on the side of the playerbase. Everyone who isn't a hordecore pvper will switch to alliance, thus the favoritism.
Love how you're backed into a corner. Even more points for saying my opinions are baseless, yet you're spewing them every second. I'll focus on your pvper statement.
- It varies by realms/battlegroups. Maybe some research before sharing your ideas (opinions) with us would help.
extra! - Nobody really cares if you have level capped characters. You're still a QQer. Blizzard may have favorites, but that doesn't mean they treat their favorite race/class better than other stuff. There's another company that does that, it's called Nexon.
Maybe you should do some research on your part. One, all of the battlegroups have been merged. Two, realm to realm it doesn't matter, because any pvp that matters is crossrealm.
My ideas are based in facts. Those facts are yet to be disproved, and therefore, my ideas stand. Which is my point.
There's no reason you should be saying
I'm tempted to requote you, and "fix" it, but I'm not going to stoop to that level.
Yet you made this thread which is completely retarded.
Just because I play horde
Stopped reading it here.
Edit: 1 minute astygia!
and be able to contribute to the debate here. If you don't know the whole argument, then you should really not retort.
Oh, and I wasn't bragging about having level capped characters as you so blatantly insinuated, because having a level capped character isn't an achievement anymore. I was pointing out that, as I stated before, if I really cared about this stuff that much I would move back to my old server with my alliance level capped characters. And yet I'm not. Therefore, by the power of inclusive deduction, I don't really care about this all that much.
And if you're talking about Nexon's maplestory, you should know that Nexon doesn't create or own any content related to maplestory. It's translated by Nexon from a company in Korea named Wizet, and they don't do that, unless it's above level 70, in which case any casuals that would be affected by it wouldn't care anyway. Sins in that game may seem overpowered, but that's only when they have a high level main funding them with great gear. The rest of the time they do meh damage. Not to mention that even if they did do more damage on average it wouldn't matter much because there's no addons in that game, and therefore no recount.
If you're talking about Mabinogi, that game is craptastic anyway, and the only reason it's survived this long is the gimic of not having ot fight to be successful in the game.
Post by
Monjaru
It is favoritism. When one side is more powerful than the other due to game designer decisions, it's favoritism. Maybe not on the side of the developers, but it's favoritism on the side of the playerbase. Everyone who isn't a hordecore pvper will switch to alliance, thus the favoritism.
This is remarkably similar to an argument I disproved not long ago. The flaw you're making here is that unless the advantage is unfair, it's not classed as favoritism. And as the advantages are so minor as to not have any noticeable effects on the outcome of PvP matches, they're not unfair. Hence, it's not favoritism.
It's a disadvantageous geographical situation, surely. But that doesn't automatically entail favoritism. The other flaw in your argument is that favoritism requires a conscious thought on the part of the developers to make things noticeably unfair for one side or the other; and as an outsider to the company, you're hardly in a position to judge that. Especially with no more evidence than, "Oh, I have to jump over a stream to get to the node, and they only have to walk to it!"
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681143
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tuckmuck203
It is favoritism. When one side is more powerful than the other due to game designer decisions, it's favoritism. Maybe not on the side of the developers, but it's favoritism on the side of the playerbase. Everyone who isn't a hordecore pvper will switch to alliance, thus the favoritism.
This is remarkably similar to an argument I disproved not long ago. The flaw you're making here is that unless the advantage is unfair, it's not classed as favoritism. And as the advantages are so minor as to not have any noticeable effects on the outcome of PvP matches, they're not unfair. Hence, it's not favoritism.
It's a disadvantageous geographical situation, surely. But that doesn't automatically entail favoritism. The other flaw in your argument is that favoritism requires a conscious thought on the part of the developers to make things noticeably unfair for one side or the other; and as an outsider to the company, you're hardly in a position to judge that. Especially with no more evidence than, "Oh, I have to jump over a stream to get to the node, and they only have to walk to it!"
You're misunderstanding me. I'm saying that all of the factionhoppers and FotM crowd people are going to switch to alliance for this, because the racials are going ot be overpowered
in the next patch
.Therefore, alliance is the favorite faction of those people.
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/favoritism
Second definition there.
Post by
Monjaru
You're misunderstanding me.
I'm saying that all of the factionhoppers and FotM crowd people are going to switch to alliance for this
, because the racials are going ot be overpowered
in the next patch
.
Therefore, alliance is the favorite faction of those people.
Also, misleading title is misleading. Saying that you've "proven" favoritism for one side or the other implies the first definition. I did go back and notice that you didn't mention Blizzard specifically in your post, however, you're heavily implying by the tone and content of your post that you meant the first definition.
Obviously, I could be wrong, but that's what it comes across as. But, if you really wanted to "prove" the second definition, you could just show us some statistics that say lots of people are switching to Alliance (which you obviously need to wait until next patch to do). As you made this thread before the patch went live, I'm inclined to believe you're retreating to the second definition to avoid my points.
If I'm off-base here, please feel free to fill me in on your logic behind the creation of this thread.
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