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Post by
Monday
Rank... seriously, no one wants to read your wall of text that goes on and on about "I'm right Horde are only heros Alliance are evil we are better at everything hahaha",
I read his wall...
It was quite diverting, and I found several things in there I liked.
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451455
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Post by
leuitinet
Evil. Its definition can also be defined by POV.
The animal priests of ZG for example. Ritual Sacrifice, im sure used by many troll tribes, is a natural part of life. Im sure that if anyone outside and foreign to these practices, would find that 'evil'. To a troll? Jus anudda day mon.
Look at it like this. If you're fightin to save your ppl, and to see that they arent eradicated, you're not goin to look at your enemy and think, you sir are a noble man and Im sure your actions are just.
I dont think so.
Evil isnt practicing dark arts. Slaughtering your foes and consuming their flesh. Its not crushing your enemy into submission. Its not torturing your enemy for info.
Cannibalism, is disturbing, and only trolls and undead do it, but its part of daily life. Think of cannibalism as Highlander. Kill thy enemy and consume his power. Many tribal ppl in the history of the world had the same practices. Is it evil?
At Dark, All races are peaceful until treatened yes? I mean there are cases when corruption come into play, and thats teh catalyst. When one ppl moves on another. Be it to expand, or in search of resources. That one imbalance causes reckless actions, which cause more issues.
I think Ashenvale is a good example. The Warsong moving into the forest and clear cutting. Thats gonna @#$% off any Night Elf
Post by
Rankkor
Garrosh being Warchief, you stated several times that that the Alliance has way more "potential" to be evil then the Horde, and you have envisioned the orcs as a perfect peaceful race
lol? so having "potential to be evil" is the same as being evil these days? dude, I said on that post that the alliance has several NON-DEVELOPED story arcs that could demonize them and make them look evil, but so far, the writers have left those story-arcs untouched (well, stormrage kinda touched fandral's story, but the others are still untouched)
as it stands on WOTLK, the writers have refused to develop all the evil sub-stories within the alliance, focusing instead on developing the evil sub-stories within the horde, THAT was what I said on that post, wich is QUITE DIFERENT from saying "lol the alliance is evil"
I said "lol, the alliance has as much potential to be evil as the horde, but the writers refuse to develop those existant story-arcs that could smear the honor of the alliance, but they have no restraint to develop all the evil sub-plots within the horde".
you pretty much blamed the world on the Alliance, said several things are thier fault when they did absolutly nothing.
and they didn't , can you say WHAT did the blood-elves did to deserve being imprisoned and mass-executed? (no I'm not talking about what they did in TBC, focus on frozen throne, before blood-elves followed Ilidan)
all they did was try to reclaim their lands, but garithos sent them to fight imposible odds in the hope that they would be sacrificed, and when they accepted help from the naga to avoid a complete death, they are sentence to death EVERY ONE OF THEM.
now you tell me what they did to deserve being executed, the catalist of the downfall of the blood-elves is entirely on garithos.
of course, the actions the elves comited AFTER being sentenced to death were their own choises, but before being sentenced to death, they did nothing wrong, and the alliance pretty much screwed them over for no reason.
and what does "kek" means?
Post by
Rankkor
I'd say he would. He spent a lot of his time there fighting alongside Lothar at Llane's command and was still loyal throught out all the time after. And both he and Varian go back to being childhood friends. He also has a connection to the Conjurers of Azeroth (Stormwind's mages).
http://www.wowwiki.com/Khadgar
1)he's a member of the kirin tor.
2)the kirin tor was a part of the alliance on the second war, but not anymore.
3)he reports to the council of six NOT to captain chin-block.
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457614
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Post by
Adamsm
And both he and Varian go back to being childhood friends.Lolwut? Khadgar was in his 20's when Varian was 9-12(not clear which age), and he's from Lordaeron not Stormwind heh.
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451455
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Post by
Monday
And both he and Varian go back to being childhood friends.Lolwut? Khadgar was in his 20's when Varian was 9-12(not clear which age), and he's from Lordaeron not Stormwind heh.
Considering that by the time Varian was in his teens Khadgar and the rest of the Expedition was lost in outland.
Post by
Adamsm
Lolwut? Khadgar was in his 20's when Varian was 9-12(not clear which age), and he's from Lordaeron not Stormwind heh.
I was talking about the Last Guardian era when he was down in Stormwind.
Beyond the Dark Portal said he is "only a hand few of years older", which is true. I think Khadgar is about 4-5 years from Varian.
Khadgar was 17 when he first arrived at Karazhan and he remained with the Guardian for 4 years, and not once did he meet Prince Varian Darkton; there is no connection beyond the fleeing north. And again, Khadgar is a Lordaeron native not Stormwind.
Post by
Rankkor
What did they do? Aside from absorbing demon blood, not much... at that point.
/facepalm.
dude, READ YOUR LORE.
at the time of the frozen throne the blood-elves DID NOT consumed fel magic (nor did they ever drank demon blood, that's the orcs, learn your lore dude)
how exactly did they started feeding on fel magic? Illidan taugth them.
and when did they met Illidan? AFTER BEING SENTENCED TO DEATH FOR NO REASON.
after all, kael'tas and his forces did worked with tyrande, u think they would work with him if they smelled the taint of fel magic? he was aiding tyrande and maiev to hunt down Illidan, at that point he never actually met him, it wasn't untill after garithos screwed them over that he accepted Illidan's pact of damnation.
Garithos was a renegade leader, not a leader of the Alliance.
LOL?
http://www.wowwiki.com/Garithos
Garithos was the
Grand Marshal
leader of remnants of the Kingdom of Lordaeron following its downfall during the Third War, and also de-facto leader of Alliance forces in Lordaeron, the New Alliance.
jesus, sometimes it's scary how little lore some users on this forum have.
Post by
Rankkor
please do NOT say lies about me, that's flamming, don't make me report you again, and lastly, u're not the boss of me or of anyone else in this forum, I can post whatever the hell I want to (so long as it's not a flame or personal atack against someone specific) and you are NOBODY to tell me otherwise.
is that clear enough?.
also you laugh in my face when i told you this? I mean it, u're not the boss of anyone here, i can post what I want (as long as it's not an atack against someone) and u're nobody to tell me otherwise to me or to anyone else.
so no, no lol's stop telling me what I can or cannot do.
mods can, u can't-.
Post by
leuitinet
Ive started a war! Im a Warbringer!
I wonder who will be the hero/heroin? Stay tuned....
Ty Lore community. Im learning more and more. And I think Ive helped make sence of some of the lore.... kinda lol. Or is it Kek? Bur? Ya'll know what I mean
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451455
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Post by
leuitinet
Its not about the ally heros in Cata, its bout the heros of the Alliance. I see alot of Horde hero talk in the cata forums, and was wondering why BC and Wrath didnt do much for the allies. I mean the greatest ally moment was SW kind returning.
On Garithos.... He sounds Staghelm and Garrosh. Superior race. He is greedy and easily swayed like Blackhand. Took command of any army and self proclaimed leader, like Rend.
Anyone else notice this?
Where did Rank say the Horde had superior heros. I remember him sayin that many Horde heros are still alive. I mean if you count Kargath, even though he's the Shattered Halls boss, he was an Old Horde hero. Fell to corruption, like Illidan, and Arthus.
After my cram session, and im still sorting it all out lol, I think Hero Head count is about even.
Post by
Rankkor
I just noticed that the original point of this thread was about Alliance hero's role in Cataclysm, but got derailed when rank said that horde heros are superior.
check my first post dude, I merely stated a coment on how most (again, because some people just need repetition, most =/= all) alliance heroes have a tendency to either die, or leave the alliance becoming neutral, or just get evil.
while most (again most=/=all) horde heroes remain horde till the end of their days, and several are still alive.
what the rest of the forums made out of my comment is behond my controll, I never moved the shift of this thread from alliance heroes, to horde heroes.
I simply made a statement, what the rest chose to do or say with it is something i can't controll.
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