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Lock Tapping and Healers that won't heal - HELP!
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Post by
xaratherus
"not him cause frankly lower level healing is boring as heck, i literally spend 95% of my dungeons alt tabbed reading articles on the net and no one has died yet...."
Are we talking about doing lower level dungeons at-level? Because I've run several recently, and healed them, at the appropriate level for the dungeon, and I can say that my experience was not the same...
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Post by
CaoimheX
Healer mana = 500 for 6 lifetaps, lock mana = 25k, seems like a good exchange rate, if you have a problem with healing locks that lifetap even at lower levels, it's on YOU, not him cause frankly lower level healing is boring as heck, i literally spend 95% of my dungeons alt tabbed reading articles on the net and no one has died yet....
Well, As an Affli Lock I selfheal myself all the way up. So much easierYou're not making Vaeldan work hard enough! :p
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CaoimheX
finally, you are there to heal. We are there to kill. Do your job so we can do ours.I'd be tempted to say this, too, is a bit uneducated, but there's more truth in it than is immediately evident.
If a warlock's DPS suffers, and it will suffer substantially if the warlock goes OOM or loses the glyph buff, then the boss takes longer to down. As a healer, I like shorter boss fights. By topping the warlocks off, it then seems that healer's are making their own lives easier.
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xaratherus
finally, you are there to heal. We are there to kill. Do your job so we can do ours.
And water is there for drinking between fights. :)
Not saying I won't heal a 'lock who uses LT appropriately. However, if a Warlock dumps his life down too low between pulls, and I'm low on mana anyway, then while I'm sitting and drinking he can sit and eat.
Post by
Lohr
if your life taping i will toss a renew but dounb't excpect much more then that well maybe a PWS if theres fighting going on
I do this only if they are abusing it...
Post by
g2g591
On my level 73 pally healer, healing dungeons is very easy and nearly 35% of my healing is overheal (due to beacon). If I am grouped with a lock, I encourage him to life tap as much as he needs to ESPECIALLY during pulls (because party damage is usually next to none, again, resulting in overhealing) so that i don't waste a FoL on a dps at full health.
Post by
gratscot
Keep tapping. If the healer can't handle it they will learn to by the time the instance is done.
Life Tap is part of your tools for being a good lock. Use it.
If they refuse to heal you because you are tapping, then let everyone else in the party know that the healer is failing to do their job and you must stop to self heal.
Its more complicated. I dont mind if a lock life taps away (Its better not to get below 40% though, that makes healers scared) as long as I'm on top of heals. If not then dont life tap Obviously
Post by
steeeeven
Lifetap is fine. It's your fault if you kill yourself with it (i.e. using it while you're taking damage or while other group members are low on health and will be getting heal priority). A good healer isn't going to let you sit at low health, no matter how you got there. In my opinion, though, you should at least take the group's current overall health situation into account before you do it.
One thing to keep in mind when you're pugging is that it can be problematic for you to lifetap right at the beginning of a pull. The reason for this is that if the healer heals you (or, in my case as a tree, his existing hots heal you) then he will have healing aggro before the tank even has a chance to touch the mobs. However, this is really only a concern in pugs where you aren't sure how good the tank is. I have certainly had a pack of mobs run to me because my hot healed the warlock's lifetap while they were incoming, but it's not that common.
Generally if I notice the lock is not at full mana, I'll go ahead and cast a hot on him even though he's at full health. Some of them take the hint... some don't.
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Cadiac
Generally if I notice the lock is not at full mana, I'll go ahead and cast a hot on him even though he's at full health. Some of them take the hint... some don't.
Thats exactly what I do.. I think lifetap is great spell and locks should always use it if they need it - as long as healer can handle it, but usually that's not really a problem.
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windstrum
This is so funny, this is one of my biggest complaints with Locks. I always put Wisdom on Locks and they always cry for Kings or
Might
lolwut?
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Post by
Jaspirac
It seems the point here is that Warlocks will LT and healers will heal when they can. It seems reasonable to me. As a healer I've seen warlocks LT during fights and take themselves below 50% health. That is just plain dumb- especially for a dps class that does a high amount of damage. You can be easily one-shot if a mob gets away from the tank. LT in moderation and like one poster said know the heals you are getting so you can life tap against them.
Let your healer know that you use LT in your rotation -esp. if you use it alot. I've had warlocks that start LTing and then I see a party chat saying "Lifetapping." Guess waht- as a healer, one of the last things I'm doing is looking at the chat window during a pull. All I see is your health dropping fast and perhaps panic a bit because I think you've got agro. Then after the fight I see what you said.
Doing dungeons at level 60 below is far different than raiding or 80 heroics as many people are still learning their class and spec(s). In a raid you can LT as much as you want since there is usually a raid healer watching over you.
The bottom line should be to LT when needed and when appropriate. If the tank dies because the healer was busy trying to keep you up then it's fail all around. If you drain your life below 50% then you should prepare to heal yourself or die.
Post by
TMSama
Good healers will be able to handle you life tapping, as long as it's moderated. (I speak from experience as a Tree Druid). I have run into the occasional dbag lock who will Life Tap to the maximum after EVERY spell, so I let them die in favor of healing the tank or other DPS.
So, go ahead and Life Tap away. If the healer refuses to deal, find another group. It's better to not hold up the group so one DPS can drink, when the healer could just throw on a Rejuvenation, or a couple of Lifeblooms (spells depending on your healer's class).
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