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Hyperspacerebel
That's logically inconsistent. Either he exists or he doesn't -- only one can be right.They're both just as right, which means neither of them is really right.
They're both just as
possible
, but no, you're making a logical fallacy the way it's written.
He means ethically right
I thought maybe you were right, but what he said in reply makes it seem otherwise.
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Hyperspacerebel
They're both just as possible, but no, you're making a logical fallacy the way it's written.
not
believing
that god exists is just as right as
believing
that god exists.
Your point?
Let's change your quote to "not
believing
that
5-headed unicorn-pigs
exist is just as right as
believing
that
5-headed unicorn-pigs
exist." One is right, the other isn't. It's fairly simple.
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Hyperspacerebel
No, there's NO way in this world could we know if 5-headed-unicorn-pigs ; Flying spaghetti monsters; gods ; whatevers exist.
So it is just as irrational to claim that you know they exist or that you know they don't exist (when talking about, god stuff you know).
Who ever said anything about knowing if they exist? What we know and don't know has
absolutely no bearing
on what is and isn't. It either exists or it doesn't.
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Hyperspacerebel
Any particular reason you repeated almost exactly what I said?
Is that you agreeing with me? I can't tell.
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Hyperspacerebel
Who ever said anything about knowing if they exist? What we know and don't know has absolutely no bearing on what is and isn't. It either exists or it doesn't.Yes of course it either exists or it doesn't. But I wasn't talking about that. Rationally it's impossible to know these things, so theists saying god exists is just as right as atheists saying god doesn't exists. (see I'm repeating myself)
Repeating yourself doesn't make it any truer. Only one is right; we may no be able to determine which one it is -- but that doesn't change the fact.
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Adamsm
Repeating yourself doesn't make it any truer.But that's all Victory knows how to do.
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TheMediator
I can see how you could attempt to make the connect between evolution and racism... but I don't see what communism has to do with evolution in the slightest. If anything, evolution is related to capitalism - those business entities that are best suited to the market will survive, grow, and spread.
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Conservapedia is a far from Unbiased source.
As noted earlier, evolutionary ideas significantly influenced the thinking of the nineteenth and twentieth-century Communists. Karl Marx wrote in a letter the following, ""Darwin's book is very important and serves me as a basis in natural science for the class struggle in history." Darwin's ideas also influenced the thinking of Engels, Vladimir Lenin, and Joseph Stalin.
Previously it was mentioned that evolutionary ideas contributed to the scourge of racism. Charles Darwin and Thomas Huxley contributed greatly to the theory of evolution broadly being accepted in the 1900s. Darwin, Huxley, and the 19th century evolutionists were racist in sentiment and believed the white race was superior. For example, Charles Darwin wrote in his work The Descent of Man and Selection in Relation to Sex the following:
Every single citation in the above quote links to a creationist website, ofcourse you are going to find claims that Evoloution is evil on a Creationist webiste.
“ At some future period not very distant as measured by centuries, the civilised races of man will almost certainly exterminate and replace the savage races throughout the world. At the same time the anthropomorphous apes...will no doubt be exterminated. The break between man and his nearest Allies will then be wider, for it will intervene between man in a more civilised state, as we may hope, even than the Caucasian, and some ape as low as the baboon, instead of as now between the Negro or Australian and the gorilla. ”
http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Notable_Charles_Darwin_misquotes
“ After 1859, the evolutionary schema raised additional questions, particularly whether or not Afro-Americans could survive competition with their white near-relations. The momentous answer was a resounding no.... The African was inferior — he represented the missing link between ape and Teuton." ”
Again, only citation is to a creationist website.
So yeah, mapled013, I'd request that in future you don't use a source so incredibly biased towards your arguement, it does nobody in the discussion any good.
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