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MyTie
I'm a Christian. I have to say, that I don't know the explaination for the 'trinity' nature of God. I don't know. There, I said it. In fact, the Bible (Christ's teachings) doesn't say anything otherwise, so I'd like to know what this has to do with Christianity (Christ's teachings).
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Hyperspacerebel
Do you mean believing that Jesus is also a god? Because yes, that is blasphemy.
Christians believe that there are 3 distinct persons in the One God. From the passages I quoted it would seem that, yes, Christianity and Islam are incompatible.
It was directed at MyTie's notion that he can be a Christian and Muslim.
Incompatible? I don't think that's what you meant, but I don't think that Chrisitians and Muslims can't harmoniously.
What I did think you meant was that the two religions are incompatible within a single person, which I agree with.
Incompatible:
1 : incapable of being held by one person at one time
So, yes, that's exactly what I meant.
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MyTie
I'm a Christian. I have to say, that I don't know the explaination for the 'trinity' nature of God. I don't know. There, I said it. In fact, the Bible (Christ's teachings) doesn't say anything otherwise, so I'd like to know what this has to do with Christianity (Christ's teachings).
The trinity is rather fundamental in Christian faith. It is the belief that God the Father, Jesus the son, and The Holy Spirit are 3 in one. 3 manifestations of a singular being if that's easier to understand (though not entirely accurate) To point you to specific verses in the Bible I just send you to
this page
so I don't put in a huge all of text here. Basically what people are saying is that you cannont believe that Jesus is the son of God, and therefore part of the holy trinity and still hold the beliefs of islam (referenced back to the earlier quote from the Qu'ran). To directly answer your question about what the trinity has to do with christian teachings... it is the very foundation of Christian belief.
That Bible verse doesn't explicitly say they are autonomous. The correct answer is "I don't know". Don't be afraid of not knowing something.
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MyTie
Autonomous or not, they are conflicting.
Just going off of what you know. But, then again, we aren't given a whole lot of information. So, the correct answer, for the last time... "WE DON'T KNOW".... besides, I don't see how it is important.
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Squishalot
Even without assuming the holy Trinity as being one and the same person...
Christians, at their core, must believe that Jesus is the Son of God, irrespective of whether they believe in the Holy Trinity. They have to believe that they will be brought to Heaven through Jesus.
That, in itself, is incompatible with Islam, which clearly states that Jesus is a prophet. That they both worship the same God is irrelevant. In all seriousness, you'd have better luck suggesting that you can be a Jewish-Muslim.
And with reference to the Self-Defense issue I raised on page 1/2:
Soldiers who fight in wars are not considered to have murdered anyone. They have killed, obviously, but it is not in cold blood. It is in Jihad, as it were.
Not sure if the word is empowered, but yes, you are within your rights to defend yourself even if that means killing the other person.
Can a preemptive strike be considered defending yourself?
In this light, I can see that while Islam doesn't support such actions in its own right, it doesn't go out of its way to prevent them either. It's not an interpretation of the Qu'ran that's then the issue, it's the way it's applied.
Christians are no better, so I'm not trying to paint a bad view of Muslims. Just saying that the people who perform terrorist acts can religiously justify what they're doing, the same way as terrorist Christians could. It's just not 'in the spirit' of either religion.
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kattib
Alright seeing as I am Jewish I wish to ask
What are Islam's thoughts on Jews, any prevelent idea(s)?
The most I know of their relationship other than modern, and many times perverted ideas that the media shows, is that Muhammad was partially inspired by Jewish people and cities as he was on some of the trade routes in the middle east.
Sorry if that is wrong as well, it is all I remember from comparative religion in Sunday school :)
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Hyperspacerebel
I am Jewish
...
Sunday school :)
Did I miss something?
Post by
Squishalot
I am Jewish
...
Sunday school :)
Did I miss something?
People can change religion. I went to Sunday school once upon a time ago too.
I also attend my girlfriend's Catholic Church every now and then (and no, I don't take Holy Communion. Even if I wanted to, apparently there's a big hoopla for someone's first Holy Communion?). So you can't judge someone's experience from their beliefs alone.
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