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DW Frost DPS - Blowing Up the Competition One Obliterate At A Time
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Eleazer
@muomon - specs/rotations/glyphs are all on the first page.
@Nakor - Your dps is on par with your gear for the most part. I am not sure why you gemmed haste or enchanted expertise. You could probably redo those and boost your ap a bit. Your hit is fine. I am actually surviving with a lot less hit than you now. I am pulling about 4k dps with only about 216 hit rating which is way too low for my taste. I would prefer to be closer to 300, but don't want to gem to get there.
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Eleazer
Well, first off Penamore, you have way too much hit. Get rid of some of it for more strength. I would swap out some of your hit gear for some haste gear. Get down to around 300-350 hit and you will be fine. Necrosis and BcB benefit from haste because they are based on white hits, though BcB I believe has a ppm rate, just not sure. If Necrosis is below your Razorice procs than something is seriously wrong with your dps cycle, because Necrosis generates at the same rate as Razorice, but more powerful. Your lack of haste works the same with Razorice as it does with Necrosis. Your gear is very good, probably better than mine. I have a ton more haste, but that is due to gear, and not gemming. Remember while haste does benefit Necrosis and BcB it doesn't benefit your biggest attacks. Personally, I love haste, however I wonder if it's worth gemming into. I haven't seen anything that says it's worth gemming into.
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Eleazer
I was correct in the 440 cap, but I meant trying to get there without gemming for it. You can still do great dps without ever getting there remember that 440 spell hit cap can include the 3 percent from misery or Faerie Fire, and Virulence. I could be wrong though. If you could do me a favor and get me a copy of your raid dps so i can compare it with mine with 216 hit than that would be great. If the misses aren't that large than I may be wrong to try and get that high.
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neomasterc
after hours of contemplating whether to leave my DW frost or blood 2h as my dps spec.. (cant have 2 dps specs cuz il never get into any groups).. i decided to leave DW frost...
Tho ive had good results with DW frost, i realize that i let RP cap sometimes...
is it something im doing wrong?
what im basically doing is..
IT>PS>BS>BS>OB>FS>FS>OB>OB>OB>FS>FS>pest>BS>OB>OB
etc etc..
but like i have some trouble fitting rime procs into my GCD... and if i do, i sometimes end up with RP capping out...
would it be a pure latency/clickfaster/get more haste issue? or?
i still pull good dps... even with silent crusader as OH.. heh
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Just an update on everyone's favorite DW Death Knight. 28 runs of Heroic TotC 5man and no
Battlestar
drops for me. I was running around with the Grimhorn Crusher raiding 10 man ToC. With my entire guild asking me every day if the mace dropped yet. Well, we ran ToC 10 and I picked up two more pieces of gear, but still no offhand weapon. After going to Uld 10, we downed Razor once again with me pushing for lead dps with an arms warrior and rogue, and finally after a dozen uld 10 runs a second
Razorscale Talon
drops, and so I am now DW two of them, and will probably never run HTotC again lol. I am pretty pumped now as I have been pushing close to 4k dps on tank and spank non-gimmick fights with Grimhorn Crushers.
I just picked up new
Wrists
, bonus awesomeness! and a new
Belt
. I have to save up for my something with hit or I won't be able to wear the belt though. Looks like I am going to need to gem for hit for now.
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Eleazer
lol, I love that revenge. On the one hand, I have awful weapons and gear, and I am not pulling that great a dps. So is it my gear or my dps that makes me less elite in your eyes? If my dps isn't good than my gear is or is my dps good, but my gear isn't :P. I know 4.8k dps is not elite, but we are talking about Uld 10 non-gimmick fights. Now compared to the fact that my guild has yet to down Uld 25 Thorim, and that means I have yet to see the weapons you linked. Razorscale is pretty good for me, considering that since the patch I was DW Grimhorn Crushers. For those of you who raid Uld 25/toc10/uld 10, you will understand how humorous it was for me to run around with ilvl 200 weapons with ilvl 232/219 gear. However with the lack of 1h weapons that I can use dropping, there wasn't much I could do. As for the everyone's favorite DK comment, well apparently you haven't seen my comments previously, and realized the humor in the comment, but I will grant your forgiveness this time.
Sam, you are the man. Where have you been?
Post by
Zzeeuuss
Hey sorry not posted in a while, especially after the naxx run where i was going to throw some numbers etc up, for that run i didnt roll frost as i wasnt comfortable enough with it yet and didnt feel geared well enough to maximise dps output, so went back to my old unholy ways....which is no bad thing may i add =P
However iv joined a new guild i ran uld 10 and whadya know Razorscale Talon dropped.....GIEF ME TYVM =D
so now im using Talon and Iornforge smasher and the talon has made a huge differance.
Eleazer i share your pain with toc hc, i have also ran countless times but to no avail =[
btw is 4.8k your overall dps for the raid or on bosses only?
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Eleazer
Harlon - okay pest does not apply diseases it simply refreshes them which means you still have to go IT/PS before beginning your initial cycle. Finally, it has been noted several times, that losing KM is not an option. The difference in dps between 4/5 and 5/5 KM is very noticeable it's better to lose a point from Chill of the Grave. Deathchill is not in any spec, 53/18 is easily the highest dps regardless of haste. BcB and Necrosis give more damage the better your weapon damage. This was one of the major changes in the last patch that gave BcB and Necrosis an advantage. Not only that, but BcB scales on ArP I know it sounds wierd but it's true. BcB and Necrosis have great scaling, while Bladed Armor and the crit scale poorly.
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