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What Is Time? (Physics Continued)
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Post by
L33tsauce
Finity ÷ Infinity = 0
Incorrect. The limit of Finity ÷ Infinity = 0. Your product on the other hand is incomprehensible.
I'll be back for more. I is hungry.
Finity + Infinity = Infinity
Edit: If you have an infinite amount of water, and you add a glass of water, you still have an infinite amount of water, not nothing.
That was a division sign, not an addition sign. -.-
Post by
MyTie
Not to be mean or anything....But your speaking about advanced physic's on a WoW Randomness forum..... <.<
Not to be mean or anything, but go soak your head.
I called a physics professor at Washington State University today and presented my defintion of time to him, and all he said was that it was too specific. He suggested reading the book "
Hyperspace
", or anything by Stephen Hawking. He said that many of the concepts are untestable because humans cannot create a true vaccume, or determine if a true vaccume exists.
Post by
MyTie
Finity ÷ Infinity = 0.
That was a division sign, not an addition sign. -.-
Even easier. Infinity is a concept, not a number. Thats like saying:
Any number divided by thought is 0. It's not that it is mathmatically impossible, it's just bad grammer, and doesn't make sense.
Post by
ASHelmy
If there is only change, then why isn't my clock done spinning already? Let me explain:
The second law of thermodynamics is an expression of the universal law of increasing entropy, stating that the entropy of an isolated system which is not in equilibrium will tend to increase over time, approaching a maximum value at equilibrium.
Other than the fact that this is one of the only (maybe the only) law of thermodynamics that has to do with time, and explicitly relies on time to exist, the fact remains that entropy must have a set rate of increase. Time is the ____ that defines and confines that entropy. Otherwise, I would be dead, or maybe never lived in the first place, I'm not sure. Since I can sit here and type this message, I must have the time to do it... and as we can see, entropy is taking over.... almost there.... yes, we have reached it, entropy has done it's work and this post is done.
If you question is: If, for example, the earth will revolve around itself, why does it take 24 hours and not 24 seconds or 240 hours? Because, as much as I know, everything is effected by some kind of force that makes it change and the strength of that force is what determines how fast it will change, that's what I think. if that isn't your question (and it probably isn't), then I don't think I can answer you, because ,as I said before, I am just a physics noob :D.
Post by
Aladraz
Time is the fourth dimension because without time, nothing would move, nothing would die, nothing would happen, and nothing would exist.
Finity is a direct situation of being and therefore cannot be compared with a number and when divided with unlimited range results in unlimited range. So... Finity/Infinity results in Infinity because Finity cannot act as a number. But if you were to place Finity into a state of a number, the best number situated would be 1, because Infinity would always be the result of being divided by something Finite, or existing.
...This is a hypothesis, I thought of this in like 5 seconds and it's probably wrong.
Post by
MyTie
I'll reword it for you.
If there is no such thing as time, then why don't things decay instantly?
Post by
ASHelmy
Because the force (can't really find the word for it) that causes that decay isn't strong enough to do it instantly. What I mean is, the fact that things change makes time, as in, time is not some vessel in which things move and change.
Post by
MyTie
Then were back to my question. Does change cause time or does time cause change. Figuring that out will aid in defining time.
As long as we agree that time does exist, due to our observations of entropy.
Post by
Aladraz
Time doesn't cause change, time permits change.
Post by
Skyfire
Incorrect. The limit of Finity ÷ Infinity = 0. Your product on the other hand is incomprehensible.
I'll be back for more. I is hungry.
Finity + Infinity = Infinity
Edit: If you have an infinite amount of water, and you add a glass of water, you still have an infinite amount of water, not nothing.
Er, except that's a division sign? :] I was quite deliberate when I said "product", rather than "sum".
Post by
MyTie
Aren't you a little late? I already addressed the fact it was a division sign in an earlier post. Very skilled moderator I see. Need me to show you the ropes? Give you a few pointers?
Post by
Skyfire
Aren't you a little late? I already addressed the fact it was a division sign in an earlier post. Very skilled moderator I see. Need me to show you the ropes? Give you a few pointers?
I'm supposed to
read
the entire thread? BUT MOMMIEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!
Post by
ASHelmy
Then were back to my question. Does change cause time or does time cause change. Figuring that out will aid in defining time.
As long as we agree that time does exist, due to our observations of entropy.
I think change causes time, Hell, look at how a second is defined" the time taken by 9 192 631 770 oscillation of light (of specified wave length) emitted by a cesium-133 atom" (taken from the book "fundamentals of physics").
Post by
ASHelmy
I'm still firm on my theory that time does not exist. It's kind of like God: Man made it up so that we can pretend we know what the hell is going on around us. The difference is, while God is intended to make us not question anything, time seems to do the exact opposite.
I would like to include my new crackpot theory about a time-based religion, but that would be seriously off-topic.
God is not made up.
Post by
MyTie
Niether is time.
Man made dlobal warming, on the other hand... well... we won't go there.
Post by
Skyfire
Oh, and Skyfire: The result of division is a
Quotient
, not a
Product
. :P
Finity x (1/infinity)? Neither product nor quotient are more semantically correct here.
Post by
119742
This post was from a user who has deleted their account.
Post by
MyTie
Then were back to my question. Does change cause time or does time cause change. Figuring that out will aid in defining time.
As long as we agree that time does exist, due to our observations of entropy.
I think change causes time, Hell, look at how a second is defined" the time taken by 9 192 631 770 oscillation of light (of specified wave length) emitted by a cesium-133 atom" (taken from the book "fundamentals of physics").
I thought a lot today about this, and I think i disagree with you. If that were the case... well... let me explain it:
Imagine a single unmoving iota in space. No light reaches it, no gravity affects it, nothing happens to it. It's world does not encounter change. That iota would not move through time, by your rational. If it did not move through time, then it would not be reachable in the future by other objects.
Keep in mind, you might still be right, because matter
is
energy.
Post by
ASHelmy
In my opinion, all of you are wrong.
'Time' is a term that expresses movement.
What is movement? A change in the position of a piece of matter, relative to other matter.
Logical Proof
1) How do you know time is passing if all movement stops?
2) Time never stops because atoms are always moving.
Therefore, to stop time, stop all movement except for that of yourself.
All in all, I agree that this forum could not exist and in reality i'm just bat$%^& crazy.
That's almost what I am trying to say. thank you.
Post by
MyTie
'Time' is a term that expresses movement.
Here's your problem. Time is not a term that expresses movement. Our
perception
of time is measured by movement, but our perception and time itself are not the same thing.
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