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Is Bloodsurge worth the 3/3?
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Let's look at
Slam
- weapon damage +250, and Bloodsurge makes the Slam instant but it still costs Rage; a hefty 15. Add to that the odd time when you just miss the Bloodsurge proc and you get the annoying Slam castbar appear for 1.5 seconds.
Let's compare this with
Heroic Strike
- weapon damage +495 minimum (nearly double that of Slam), same amount of rage and off the GCD, meaning that it doesn't interrupt with your Bloodthirst/WW rotation. As well as that, the
glyph
has a high chance of refunding 10 rage if you have high crit rating, making it cost only 5 rage.
Heroic strike basically does just 495 damage, for the cost of both the 15 rage AND the rage you would have gotten from your next main hand autoattack. Total could easily be above 40 rage.
Slam does weapon damage plus 250, which will in most cases for a titan grip warrior be well into the thousands. So it does far more damage than heroic strike, for a much lower cost. An instant slam is so much better than heroic strike it's not even funny.
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Anyway, I'm pretty sure Bloodsurge was a nerf for high end gear.
I'm pretty sure bloodsurge increases your DPS. The only question is if other available talents increase it more, and I doubt that is the case. Replacing heroic strikes, even just a few of them, with bloodsurge slams is a direct increase in DPS, simple as that.
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Your mention of cleave proves you are talking about stuff you know nothing about. Swapping from heroic strike to cleave when attacking a single target has the following effects: Reduces damage per threat, reduces damage per rage, reduces damage per second. Cleave has bonus threat that is almost as high as heroic strike. Since the actual damage done by cleave is significantly lower than heroic strike (on a single target), that means you get proportionally more bonus threat, which is counterproductive.
And you still haven't explained how it can be better to spend 30-40 or more rage on 495 damage (plus change) can be better than spending 15 rage on a few thousand damage. Unless of course you are using all your GCDs already, which you generally shouldn't be.
Your results may simply be caused by you not performing properly when specced for bloodsurge. It certainly is easier to skip it and just stick to the normal rotation and heroic strikes, but that doesn't mean it is optimal to do so.
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