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Post by
Rankkor
Eh, I never played during BC but I definitely think ICC was better than DS. At the very least it was less buggy.
That's true, still, I'm haunted to this day by my memories of Sindragosa. :S you would not believe how many times we wiped before finally getting her down. Hell, we had to replace our offtank TWICE and 3 of our DPS because they were just quitters who refused to keep trying. Since my guild never had that problem in DS (We did struggled with some of the bosses, but not at the same rate as Sindragosa) I'm overall more happy about that place than I was in ICC. Plus DS actually has an ending that wasn't a complete asspull like the ending of ICC.
Incredible number of bugs throughout the instance that are severely punishing to progression. Get Heroic Hagara to 10% before a Lightning Phase? Guess what? THE LIGHTNING WILL NOW REFUSE TO CHAIN. Heroic Zon'ozz going well? WE'RE GONNA GIVE THE GERBIL IN THAT BALL COCAINE AND SEE WHERE IT ENDS UP! Madness almost down? HOW ABOUT A SWIM?
Odd, I haven't encountered any bugs in DS, then again, I've never done DS heroic, only the first boss, and that's because that boss is easier than dirt.
• Rather bad tank-mechanics mostly, or at the very least tanking wasn't very balanced in the least. Poor Warriors.
I wouldn't know about that. I'm a DK, so...............
And for for general problems with the patch:
• Absolute refusal to balance PvP, allowance of ridiculous PvE gear in PvP.
Its why I dislike pvp in general, and only sporadically partake in it. You do have a HUGE point on how some of the pve Gear absolutely BREAKS the pvp.
Rogue with Vial of the shadows+Fangs of the father = Absolutely BROKEN.
B-R-O-K-E-N.
One of my best friends on wow, back on WOTLK had Shadowmourne, and had Heroic Deathbringer's Will, and yet on his warrior, he was not facing 6 people at the same time and wiping the floor with them.
here, a single rogue with those damn items is absolutely impossible to kill. Before the trinket was nerfed, it would take a rogue with those about 1.3 seconds to bring me from full HP to zero, and he'd do that to 6 people in the blink of an eye, without even popping Cooldowns or anything. That's just broken.
• Worst ending to the Infinite Dragonflight storyline I ever could have thought up.
Still a better ending than the one for the lich king >_> seriously that ending SUCKS.
That said it was probably my third or fourth favorite raid-tier, outpacing things like ToT by miles and definitely better than Firelands.
ToT? you mean ToTC? cuz if so, then you're absolutely right. ToTC has to be the worst raid they've ever done. Zero unique models, 1 single room, no trash, no lore, nada. Its only redeeming feature is the faction-champion fight, and the twins fight (I love the mechanics of both)
On the other hand, it's not all rose tinted glasses with me. For example, I thought BWD, Tot4W, and BoT we're possibly the best raiding experience I'd ever had.
Ohh I agree with you, Tot4W is by far the most gorgeous place I've ever seen, and further enhances my point that I believe it was a COMPLETE WASTE, that they'd send us to deepholm instead of the skywall. The most gorgeous elemental plane and we only get to visit it on 1 dungeon and 1 raid =(
that's just not cool.
I ardently wished that Skywall was a zone, not a dungeon. Ohh well........
Post by
Skithus
Having raided almost all the raids (Didn't do NAXX at 60, Sunwell at 70 And any of the new stuff beyond the first tier at 85) I still think Karazhan is my favorite raid. It felt like a location, rather then just a series of fights strung together.
AQ 20 for some reason I always enjoyed a bunch. ICC was a bit of a disappointing, especially the Lich King, his fight was very anti-climatic, it just wasn't very cinematic or anything, I always felt like there should have been this whirling blizzard at the top of ICC while you fight him. Gunship battle was interesting.
Guess I'm just not really a fan of Tank and Spank fights.
I look forward to killing Deathwing at some point when I get around to it. I should go back and kill Ragnaros again then my WoW Raiding would have come full circle.
Post by
Orranis
Having raided almost all the raids (Didn't do NAXX at 60, Sunwell at 70 And any of the new stuff beyond the first tier at 85) I still think Karazhan is my favorite raid. It felt like a location, rather then just a series of fights strung together.
AQ 20 for some reason I always enjoyed a bunch. ICC was a bit of a disappointing, especially the Lich King, his fight was very anti-climatic, it just wasn't very cinematic or anything, I always felt like there should have been this whirling blizzard at the top of ICC while you fight him. Gunship battle was interesting.
Guess I'm just not really a fan of Tank and Spank fights.
I look forward to killing Deathwing at some point when I get around to it. I should go back and kill Ragnaros again then my WoW Raiding would have come full circle.
You hated Lich King and loved Gunship?
What is
wrong
with you?
Also Lich King was anything but tank n' spank.
Post by
ElhonnaDS
I believe he had a healer with bad lag in his Wrath raid team, who would get everyone killed by not being able to get out of defile, but who they wouldn't replace and who wouldn't step down, and so they wiped for quite a while. I would imagine that would leave a sour taste in your mouth.
EDIT: It was so funny last night. I was like "I killed Deathwing. He's all dead now," and Skithus made a pouty face and said, "I want to kill Deathwing :("
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127599
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Post by
Rankkor
ya know, IMO, the best line of dialog in the whole skyrim game, is delivered by phartunaax.
I just couldn't kill him. As much as I liked Esbern and Delphine, as much as I wanted to see The Blades restored to their former glory, and help them rebuild, I could not kill him. No way. Specially given how when you confront Phartunaax about this, he faces the potential of his own demise with a lot of dignity, saying they are right to not trust him. He's a dragon, and its in his very nature to be evil. He must exercise tremendous effort every day to restrain his killer impulses. And then delivers the "Armor-piercing question".
"What is better - to be
born
good, or to
become
good by overcoming your evil nature through great effort?"
In the end, I was glad there's a console command that allows me to trick both Delphine and Esbern into thinking I killed him, without actually killing him. And no, I don't consider this cheating, its what I'd do if I was actually there.
I'd lie, yeah that's right, I'd lie to them, both to regain their trust, and to protect phartunaax from future attempts of assassination.
I'm even a little upset that this option isn't available in the game by default. I mean, its not like it would be hard to pull it off, how are Delphine and Esbern gonna know if you're lying? its not like they can go there personally to check, since the Greybeards don't just allow anyone up there, and even if they did, dragons slayed by you, immediately burn to a crisp till nothing but bones remain, how exactly would they differentiate his skeleton from the skeleton of any other dragon?, and if they demand proof, I'm a bonafide-certified-dragonslayer. What exactly prevents me from killing a hostile ancient dragon and deliver one of his scales as proof? is not like they have a DNA scanner at hand to confirm the identity.
So yeah, the game forcing us needlessly to choose between the blades or the greybeards is a really low cheapshot. Thank god it can be prevented on the PC version.
Reminds me of another instance of an "Armor-Piercing question" in KOTOR.
When Revan (you) confronts a former-slave-turned-sith in Korriban about the Sith code, this awesome conversation ensues:
Yuthura: I wanted to use the Force to free the other slaves I knew, to fight for what I knew was right. The Jedi restrained me until I couldn't stand it any more. They claim the dark side is evil, but that isn't so. Sometimes anger and hatred are deserved and right. Sometimes things change because of it.
Revan: But not always. Mostly it makes things worse.
Yuthura: Any failure to get the results I want is due to a lack of power on my part. That can change, in time. As a Sith, my mettle is tested far more than when I was a Padawan. I know this may sound strange, but only my compassion stands in my way, now. Once that is gone, let the slavers beware.
Revan:
But...if you lose your compassion, will you still even care about those slaves
?
Yuthura: I...yes, of course. I—I mean.... (Cue the mental meltdown.)
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204878
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Post by
MyTie
You suck hatman! That was some magnificent told'age MyTie unleashed and you just swept it under the rug :(
What happened?
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204878
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240140
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Post by
MyTie
What's happening in here?
Barrels and barrels of industrial grade crazy are spewing everywhere. I hope you brought your
unicorn umbrella
.
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240140
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204878
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Post by
MyTie
I did.
I left mine at home, would you mind if I took refuge with you under yours?
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240140
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Post by
Adamsm
Also I painted a birthday present for my brother.
I know all 21 year olds secretly want a painting of an ugly skull.
LOOK AT IT!
Heh, showing him what you secretly did to him?
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240140
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Post by
Adamsm
Took an x-ray of his skull?Meant the crack heh.
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999130
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Post by
MyTie
Hi! I'm working on a new game project, if you wanna check it out.
Youtube: eOYJIdkHhs4
What's the name of the project? Are you the only one working on it? What kind of game is it? Do you intend on hanging out on wowhead offtopic beyond posting this youtube link?
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