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Sagramor
But...an army that takes over the world is impressive, therefore your army cannot.
Hah!
No, I'm impressive, I'm the one taking over the world. They're just there because they're pretty and I want an army.
If you're taking over the world, what are you gonna do with your army?
Are you impressive enough to conquer the world?
Do I not think so?
Find out in the next episode!
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240140
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Laihendi
The people have that freedom. It doesn't take government to grant it to them. The right is inaliable by the constitution. Further laws are unconstitutional. And,means just as much, and more, than the legal bindings attatched to it. If it only means the judical implications attatched to it, then you shouldn't get married.
You don't have to get married to show you love someone, and (although admittedly he is no constitutional expert) Laihendi has never heard of it saying in the constitution that gay marriage is in inalienable right.
Love is not a benefit of marriage... love doesn't require marriage. Here's a list of things that require marriage.
joint parenting;
joint adoption;
joint foster care, custody, and visitation (including non-biological parents);
status as next-of-kin for hospital visits and medical decisions where one partner is too ill to be competent;
joint insurance policies for home, auto and health;
dissolution and divorce protections such as community property and child support;
immigration and residency for partners from other countries;
inheritance automatically in the absence of a will;
joint leases with automatic renewal rights in the event one partner dies or leaves the house or apartment;
inheritance of jointly-owned real and personal property through the right of survivorship (which avoids the time and expense and taxes in probate);
benefits such as annuities, pension plans, Social Security, and Medicare;
spousal exemptions to property tax increases upon the death of one partner who is a co-owner of the home;
veterans' discounts on medical care, education, and home loans; joint filing of tax returns;
joint filing of customs claims when traveling;
wrongful death benefits for a surviving partner and children;
bereavement or sick leave to care for a partner or child;
decision-making power with respect to whether a deceased partner will be cremated or not and where to bury him or her;
crime victims' recovery benefits;
loss of consortium tort benefits;
domestic violence protection orders;
judicial protections and evidentiary immunity.
Many people will probably think... "well if gays just wanna get married for that maybe they don't deserve marriage." To those of you, Laihendi says "maybe you take these things for granted".
And gay couples can raise children if they adopt.
Post by
MyTie
And,means just as much, and more, than the legal bindings attatched to it. If it only means the judical implications attatched to it, then you shouldn't get married.
Homosexuals have had gay relations for quite some time, and will continue to despite the inability to be recognized by the law as a couple. They're just saying that there's no reason why the law shouldn't be able to recognize a same sex couple, other than a dusty old tome (no offense, but it is pretty old and dusty).
What I am saying is that the law shouldn't recognise my marriage to my wife. Man - Woman relationship. It shouldn't recognise that star trek guy's marriage. Man - Man relationship. I'm saying that marriage has nothing to do with court. It has nothing to do with law or any of that. If you want the state to recognise you as joined to someone in law, then file for a limited partnership, or a civil union, since they are legally the same thing. I'm saying that government uses marriage to regulate us. I disagree with that.
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Post by
Sagramor
You'll see.
Yes.
You love me.
OH, can't wait.
Not really, I'm blind. Meany.
No.
Not really.
I've waited long enough.
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266586
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MyTie
joint parenting;
joint adoption;
joint foster care, custody, and visitation (including non-biological parents);
status as next-of-kin for hospital visits and medical decisions where one partner is too ill to be competent;
joint insurance policies for home, auto and health;
dissolution and divorce protections such as community property and child support;
immigration and residency for partners from other countries;
inheritance automatically in the absence of a will;
joint leases with automatic renewal rights in the event one partner dies or leaves the house or apartment;
inheritance of jointly-owned real and personal property through the right of survivorship (which avoids the time and expense and taxes in probate);
benefits such as annuities, pension plans, Social Security, and Medicare;
spousal exemptions to property tax increases upon the death of one partner who is a co-owner of the home;
veterans' discounts on medical care, education, and home loans; joint filing of tax returns;
joint filing of customs claims when traveling;
wrongful death benefits for a surviving partner and children;
bereavement or sick leave to care for a partner or child;
decision-making power with respect to whether a deceased partner will be cremated or not and where to bury him or her;
crime victims' recovery benefits;
loss of consortium tort benefits;
domestic violence protection orders;
judicial protections and evidentiary immunity.
Many people will probably think... "well if gays just wanna get married for that maybe they don't deserve marriage." To those of you, Laihendi says "maybe you take these things for granted".
And gay couples can raise children if they adopt.So, if govenrment did not recognise marriage in either hetero or homo relationships, but instead had to look at the individuals, or other filed court documents, then man-man would be seen the same as man-woman. Simply, both would be less regulated. How is this bad for you? Why don't you like my idea?
Post by
Sagramor
Not really, I'm blind. Meany.
No.
Not really.
I've waited long enough.
You love me soooo much, we're gonna get married and have kids named Charles and William. We'll probably live in Washington too, because I say so.
I don't like those names for our children. How about Daniel and Gabriel?
Post by
Laihendi
Then there are no legal benefits for marriage, which makes it pointless.
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240140
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Post by
Sagramor
I don't like those names for our children. How about Daniel and Gabriel?
Gabriel is fine, Daniel sounds like a b!itch. :/
Like father, like son.
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Post by
Sagramor
Like father, like son.
That is true, our son should be named Lucifer.
Whatever you say, Therese.
Post by
Sagramor
That's your first name?
Post by
MyTie
Laihendi, at least admit that I don't exactly believe that "Gays shouldn't be able to get married".
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