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Why not just add DE to Need/Greed?
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Post by
Munchy
Have they said anything about this yet? Because if they haven't they should.
There should be three options on the roll menu.
1. Need.
2. Disenchant.
3. Greed.
Need overrules Disenchant overrules Greed.
If you're not a DE, then the disenchant option is greyed out and you can only click need or greed.
Sounds good, right?
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Post by
Cloud8690
Because there would be a wasted button if you don't have an enchanter? I think the current "pass if you don't need, need if you do, greed for DE" works just fine
Post by
Munchy
Because there would be a wasted button if you don't have an enchanter? I think the current "pass if you don't need, need if you do, greed for DE" works just fine
Really? A wasted button? That's your objection?
Wow.
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Post by
Munchy
Because there would be a wasted button if you don't have an enchanter? I think the current "pass if you don't need, need if you do, greed for DE" works just fine
Except they could have a single button that does exactly that. It would be a simpler and smoother experience.
Because there would be a wasted button if you don't have an enchanter? I think the current "pass if you don't need, need if you do, greed for DE" works just fine
Really? A wasted button? That's your objection?
Wow.
Why fix something that's not broken?
If this is what you'd rather Blizzard focus on... wow.
Blizzard IS working on this stuff. They're always working to enhance the UI.
I can see why people might not think this is useful, but you guys should grow up if you're getting %^&*ed that someone is suggesting it at all.
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Post by
Munchy
I kind of agree with this idea. Some people need/greed before it is stated whether a DE is among the party or not. The button could just not be available if your not a DE, and is available if you can.
Yeah that's pretty much what i had in mind.
Post by
Porcell
Because it's up to the group to decide if they want things DE'ed or not. Letting an enchanter push a button and automatically win loot takes away the decision from the four other group members.
Your comeback: "Well, if they don't want things DE'ed then they can tell enchanters not to hit the DE button."
My comeback: Yeah, and if you want things DE'ed you can just have everyone pass on loot like normal...
It's just not necessary.
However, if you want to discuss useful looting changes: Masterlooter with a threshold, and everything below the threshold is put on a roll window like Group Loot.
Right now we put trash on group loot because a lot of people don't loot their bodies, and we want greens to go to the guild enchanter for the guild bank, but then this causes problems when the RL inevitably forgets to switch it back to ML before the boss.
Getting an option for Group Loot with ML on Epics would be awesome. I'd fight for that change...
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Post by
Celdhyrean
I kind of agree with this idea. Some people need/greed before it is stated whether a DE is among the party or not. The button could just not be available if your not a DE, and is available if you can.That's because the DE is stupid and only remembers to tell people after the loot dropped.
The problem with a DE button is in what priority to give it compared to greed. Need and pass are clear, and greed is intermediate. What happens when you put another middle step ? What allows you to rule that disenchant takes priority on someone wanting that item for "greed" reasons (offspec, ...). Of course that's clear in most situations (and i personally agree that it's better to DE than to greed), but you can't make a clear ruling for 100% of the cases which makes the idea a bad one.
Post by
anywherenotes
I'd love a DE button, but it should come after offspec and before greed, so now we're up to 5 buttons: need, off-spec, de, greed, pass
would be nice if 'de' would mean that simply the shard drops, and there's auto-roll, and shard goes to winner, istead of de'r having to find item in bags, and than de wrong item for some reason.
There used to be 2 buttons: need, pass. But blizz decided to add greed. I wouldn't be surprised if they add another button.
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Celdhyrean
would be nice if 'de' would mean that simply the shard drops, and there's auto-roll, and shard goes to winner, istead of de'r having to find item in bags, and than de wrong item for some reason.No, if they do that then i'd never use it : i much prefer disenchanting and keeping till the end of the instance to avoid one guy hogging all shards due to luck with dices.
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Post by
sajko
Works great until u have retards in group.
Post by
Paolo
Seems like there are 2 underlying problems you're trying to solve:
Pugging with idiots
Convenience for the enchanter
There are far bigger problems with pugs than losing shards. 'Nuff said. Adding a DE button will
maybe
solve only the least bothersome problem.
As for convenience...I mean, is greeding the item then DE-ing it really a big burden? True, Bliz does continue to work to improve the UI, but this is not a UI issue, it's a convenience issue. You'd rather not do the extra step of DE-ing it manually. Heck, I'd like an 'auto-level my profession' button too...would save a lot of steps!
Anyway, I don't think it's a terrible suggestion, just not really the best answer to the problem.
On another note:
Right now we put trash on group loot because a lot of people don't loot their bodies, and we want greens to go to the guild enchanter for the guild bank, but then this causes problems when the RL inevitably forgets to switch it back to ML before the boss.
Why not keep trash on ML, and assign ML to an officer who will be responsible for looting all bodies? Obviously it couldn't be the most essential folks (main tank or healer) so that trash pulling can keep moving while looting happens.
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