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Post by
phillymike101
After a few trash pulls our Heals d/c'ed so we waited for another healer to join. Once he did, I was kicked out of the group because the lead thought we couldnt finish with my dps. I realize rogues are more focused on 1v1 combat, and I can do well against bosses, but I was kicked for my trash dps?
Should I just spam FoK and not worry about anything else? Im aware that I need to keep up good dps, but kicking out a rogue for not doing mage-esque trash DPS seems a little ignorant to me, but I could be wrong.
Edit:
http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Skullcrusher&n=Scut
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Post by
KidB
well man, you have no gear, your hit rating is 57 just to start. you may be a new 80 i do not know for sure, but based on your armory, you need to really boost your hit rating by about 300 to start. I can't see how you are doing good dps even in a 1v1 boss fight.
Stop spreading false information.
Post by
Deathadder99
I keep auto-attack on and SnD up all the time, apart from that just spam FoK (auto-attack + SnD is nice DPS and also regens your energy).
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Post by
rapscallion
Just do yourself a favor, and make a note of who they were. Don't group with them again.
I just put on auto attack and spam FoK. Keeping tricks on the tank as much as I can to help with the ae threat levels.
I find it helps to switch to a slow, big damage dagger when doing this. I currently use
The Fleshaper
. Before I was able to get that
Broken Stalactite
. Also, I use wound poison on it, due to the higher proc rate. Having an addin to setup gear sets helps with this.
I also used the sticky
here
to get an idea of where to find upgrades when groups are not available.
I think the easiest item to obtain, that will help the most is
Chain Gang Legguards
. You can find it in the AH relatively cheep on my server. They will get you above the yellow cap for hit rating. as well as boost your health and AP.
Post by
CeeKay
With your gear, I honestly wouldn't expect you to pull more than 800dps.
In a heroic, that is not going to cut it. Peroid. I've kicked all types classes from my groups for pulling this kind of dps because it causes wipes. I generally tell them it is a gear issue, not a skill issue, as it generally is that.
To answer the question about not being able to gear up cause you can't find groups... have you ever heard of craftable epics, lvl 80 regular instances, lvl 80 quest chains, a progression guild, wowhead item search, or friends?
I mean any one of those routes will get you the gear you need to preform well in heroics with minimal effort, jumping into LFG unprepared is just going to make people who have already spent the time to do this frustrated.
On my server a lot of people say that this type of mentality, kicking people without the gear, is not "fun." Well to that I say "fun" to you may be wiping 8 times on the fist boss in AN heroic cause your dps can't pull the numbers needed to complete the timed event, but "fun" to me is completing heroics in one try getting my shards/gear/gold/drakes and moving onto the raids where there is a challenge (i.e. where wiping 8 times on Sapphiron or KT is acceptable to me as it is where I am progression wise).
If wiping in heroics is where you are at, get with some good friends or similarly geared people to progress on that level. If you can't find that and you sit in LFG be prepared to get the L2dps n00b /kick "insert your name here" on occasion.
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Zxian
hossk5
- Just a suggestion - ditch the eviscerator's hand pieces and get the
Seafoam Gauntlets
. They'll give you a slight boost in PvE damage. I'm still using them myself on my 80 -
Link
.
Unless you're planning on doing PvP, in which case, Eviscerator's is an awesome starter set. =)
To the OP
- I'll agree that your hit rating is a little on the low side. There are several cheap ways of increasing that stat.
Enchant Gloves - Precision
- +20hit
Enchant Boots - Icewalker
- +8hit/+8crit
Eternal Belt Buckle
- with
Rigid Autumn's Glow
- +16hit
The worst one on that list IMO is the Precision enchant. However, you're probably not going to replace the Seafoam's until you get something purple, so go ahead and spend the money/mats on it. On my server, that whole set of item upgrades should only cost you about ~200g. If you don't want to spend the money on the Autumn's Glow,
Rigid Sun Crystal
is way cheaper, and you only lose 4hit.
My rule of thumb - make friends with a JC and an Enchanter. While you're working your way towards the highest gear, they'll be able to help you again and again with keeping your simple stats up.
With that bit of help, you shouldn't have any trouble pulling 1200+ over an entire herioc, which is perfectly acceptable for most encounters (the gauntlet in H-UP might be a little tricky).
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CeeKay
Well I've never wiped cause of one dps being low.. Usually a wipe is cause by the tank/heals dieing and then it goes down hill. I've had times where 2 players die and its heals, tank and me(dps) left and have won fights. takes longer but we've won. I've seen many times were 1 person saves us from wiping.
Another person who doesn't understand that a healer fails when either themselves or the tank is undergeared, the dps is taking damage, or the DPS is so low that the healer goes OOM.
If your dps is high enough, your healers will be going afk to grab a sandwhich cause the tanks won't even get hit in the 10secs it takes to down a mob in a heroic.
Low dps is a very common (yet overlooked reason for wiping in heroics) and people who just think they can slack off in a heroic and grab the purple at the end rub me the wrong way.
And I was there, I got kicked; I figured out that I had to craft my gear, get a guild, and up my dps before I could earn that gear I wanted in the heroics in raids. I don't care how "skilled" you are, if you are still wearing your kara gear at 80 you are gonna pull bad dps. Skill can't make up for a rogue that has a 15% crit chance, 1500ap, and no hit rating in a heroic at 80. I'm sorry but that person's DPS is going to fail regardless of how well they can keep up their rotation and it is going to bring down the entire group.
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Post by
phillymike101
http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Skullcrusher&n=Scut
Im continuing to heed everyone's advice in an attempt to get better. My armory should be updated soon, as I just had some things enchanted with what I could afford, so let me know how my progress is going. Any additional help is greatly appreciated, thanks in advance.
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