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Post by
Rawnblade
I run a very similar spec on
my warrior
and typically have a very large buffer between me and the next highest person on the threat meter, except I have concussion blow, heroic throw, and thunderclap tossed into my tank rotation. I've been pushing this spec to the other warrior tanks of my guild but none seem to want to try it out. =(
Post by
Lorkin
Really? I've found my Deep Wounds damage from Recount to come in at around 8% of my damage. It's clearly under my other abilities like Shield Slam, Devastate, Heroic Strike, and even a bit lower than TC and SW. I'm using the
Infantry Assult Blade
as well.
I was expecting Deep Wounds to be doing more damage. Maybe I'm doing something wrong?
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Post by
Rawnblade
Kids, don't do DW on tanks. Impale is for Prot PvP. DW is for DPS. Let it go.
Might I interest you in
some reading
?
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Post by
Lorkin
Really? I've found my Deep Wounds damage from Recount to come in at around 8% of my damage. It's clearly under my other abilities like Shield Slam, Devastate, Heroic Strike, and even a bit lower than TC and SW. I'm using the
Infantry Assult Blade
as well.
I was expecting Deep Wounds to be doing more damage. Maybe I'm doing something wrong?
A: do you have incite?
B: do you have cruelty?
C: i mine/ skin, skinning gives critical strike rating
D: Your hit rotation should only include threat increasing moves that fall under the category of abilities that get the extra 15% chance to crit, more you crit more deep wounds procs, and also seeming as how all the mentioned abilities (save for heroic strike) are instant, a slow weapon can be suitable for more damage, note it's hard to find a slow weapon with defense rating on it, i use a slow dps based 1 hand weapon and buff my defense elsewhere, sort of a prot pvp trick, but is effective with my said hit rotation.
A: Yup got Incite
B: Only 2/5 in Cruelty, sitting around 8% crit unbuffed
C: Only Mining
D: I only use Shield Slam,
Revenge,
Devastate, TC, SW, and Heroic Strike generally for threat moves. SW isn't covered by a Prot Crit % increasing talent.
That Tankspot article says that DW sould provide from 6% to 12% increase in damage. Since I'm sitting at 8% damage from DW, isn't that good then? How much damage SHOULD DW be doing?
Edit: Sorry forgot to list revenge, I have the glyph so I always use it. And forgot about S&B
.
Post by
Sakkura
You skip revenge entirely? That can't possibly be a good idea. Not only does it hit like a supersonic cement truck, it also has the chance to proc sword and board.
And you're misinformed, devastate does have a 15% increase to crit chance from
Sword and Board
Post by
Rawnblade
your said spec i looked at Rawnblade, seeming as i have the glyph of revenge i had no need for improved heroic strike, and decided to take iron will for less downtime when cc'd, less downtime essentially means less chance of freak accident wipe hehe. and for the armored to the teeth points, i didn't deem them useful considering only a select few abilities are based from attack power itself, and more % chance to crit would be better used over time than blunt damage, though i did duel another prot warrior with a spec almost identical to yours yesterday and he wasn't half bad, we both won and lost some,
I have that glyph as well, not really sure why I have 3/3 Imp HS, force of spec habit, I think. My current spec is loosely based off the Malygos build from
this post
on TankSpot by Ciderhelm. I'll definitely have to try 5/5 Cruelty sometime.
Post by
marklartank
Really? I've found my Deep Wounds damage from Recount to come in at around 8% of my damage. It's clearly under my other abilities like Shield Slam, Devastate, Heroic Strike, and even a bit lower than TC and SW. I'm using the
Infantry Assult Blade
as well.
I was expecting Deep Wounds to be doing more damage. Maybe I'm doing something wrong?
nope, 8% is about right on single target bosses until you can start using crit trinkets. however, why is that something to complain about? show me a better use for 7 talent points - an 8% damage increase (and corresponding threat increase) makes me happy.
if DW starting coming in ahead of your primary abilities, it would be extremely OP.
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Post by
Lorkin
deep wounds in my recount log was just under revenge, having done more damage overall than heroic strike after 1,000,000 damage was done to the said target dummy.
8% isn't anything to discount, but the OP mentioned that his damage was "just under" revenge. My revenege is in the 18-20's % range which is much more than 8%. So I was wondering if I was doing anything wrong with only 8%.
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