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Will the "OP" classes please stand up.
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Shamans are quite fine pvp dps atm. You're retarded if you think shamans arn't alright dps for pvp, what shamans have you played with/against? Just because you suck at being a shaman, doesn't mean everyone else does.
Raid dps and pvp are 2 different things, playing an ele shaman in naxxramas doesnt take skill bro. Any shammy thats enh or ele over 1800 rating deserves a !@#$ing clap.
I agree whit Blobs, shamm pvp is very diferent that shammy pve, and as long as play wow, enh are pretty bad for arena, just try to reach 1800 rating then talk again
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Ret palas were too OP since 3.0.2 and now they are just OP, the one who says ret isnt OP now is prob playing a ret paly and doesnt want to see nerf bat incoming his way, period.
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Well, lets get BACK to the OP maybe? Just a thought...
Since I play warlock, a most un-OP class atm, I can't really offer much to the OP other than observed weakness's in the OP classes. For the purposes of this discussion, I will consider Arcane Mage, Rogue, BM Hunter, Unholy DK and Ret-Paladins OP, for these reasons:
Best kiting and instant powerful nukes for mage
Rogue with brilliant control and incredible burst
BM hunter with immunity round the clock for constant ownage
Unholy DK for refusing to die under any circumstance, and when they finally go down, Ghoul Form finishes you off
Ret-Paladin for your bubble and stun. 6sec before diminishing returns is nasty, and bubble (although priests CAN dispell it) not everyone has a priest in their front breast pocket, so the point is moot.
Now we have my standpoint, on to buisness!
Arcane mages have the advantage of being able to hurl devestating nukes with only a fraction of a sec of LOS, so LOS isn't the way to go. They have VERY low survivability outside iceblock, so they seem to be a matter of burning asap. Under fire they go down FAST. The proverbial glass cannon.
Rogues are about huge burst and control. They have the large weakness of once their flurry is over, they are vunerable for a counter attack, where they usually use CloS or Evasion to cover this weakness. Since a Rogue is CD based, they are a battle of attrition; keep em using CD, and soon enough they run out of tricks and die.
BM Hunters are just plain deadly I find. LoS until lol within is gone, then crush em. Their pet is very dangerous, but you don't need to last long for BW to go away. Also, the pets can be easily killed, though unless you have a healer, you will take a fair bit of damage dukin it out wiht the pet; you will win, but you wont be feelin too good. But, once pet is down, BM hunter becomes a dandylion and no real threat.
Unholy DK are a formidible foe. Boneshield is the big issue here. Once it's gone, they are easy prey. Dispell, devour and purge (maybe spellsteal? Would be a cruel irony...) They are VERY vunderable to kiting, their pet is weak, and rely on self healing, so wear the fool down. Many don't know how to play, which makes your life easy. The ones that open with DG and Chains of Ice are an almost free HK; sheep, DC, gouge or anything, and he has lost his anti kiting, and can be picked off. Melee will have a tough time on plate with Icebound, Boneshield, Deathstrikes, Bloodtaps and (potentialy) frost presence, which makes life hard...
Rets are just a pain if ye cant do anything about Mr Bubble n Trinket is on CD. Thats about it...
As a warlock you shouldn't have problems against a ret paladin. You can drain their mana, you can keep them fear locked, there's seriously no way a warlock can lose to a paladin.
If you see a paladin bubble, then start running away from the paladin until bubble wears off, it's very simple. when bubble comes off, then just annilihate the paladin. Warlocks and Mages are the paladin counter. In fact, I should be the one saying warlocks are OP, because they have fear.
Don't give pvp advice about a class you clearly don't play.
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Warrior - I would say they are weak but after being executed for 11800 and having 660 resilience, i changed my mind.
Yeah because all we have is execute right? wow, wooope^&*!ingdo, a finisher that crit you for 12k, so what, every other class have huge burst right off the bat, warriors are still at the bottom of the pile at the moment.
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