This site makes extensive use of JavaScript.
Please enable JavaScript in your browser.
Live
PTR
10.2.7
PTR
10.2.6
Beta
Felguard raiding?
Post Reply
Return to board index
Post by
Ragingtiger
http://wotlk.wowhead.com/?talent=IZ0xIzsgMq0sxkAZE0hVM0z
Well what do you think?
The spec is dependant on your felguard doing alot of the damages, while you shadow bolt spam.
So, we become hunters in cloth (yay for blizzard making stereotypes true)
0/2 healthstone: Didn't get it because this is the raid spec thats most benefit to you as the raider, not to everyone else, plus, i'm sure you won't be the only warlock, and you can work something out with raid buffs or something of the sort.
2/2 Demonic Brutality: Felguard buff.
Master Conjuror: Due to the recent stone buffs (they look awesome.), it's useful (for once.)
Demonic Empowerment: 20% attack speed buff? why not?
Demonic empathy: Sounds good.
1/3 Improved demonic tactics: Well, i felt a raid wide spell power buff was more important than you getting the 3% attack buff.
Okay, to destro.
ISB: yada yada yada
Bane: *Whistle*
cataclysm: Less spellhit needed from your gear=better stuff you can gem instead
Ruin: Duh.
Devestation: Duh.
Destructive reach>Intensity: You shouldn't be taking damage, if you were, such as a lock tank in ssc, then sure, take out of reach, and put into intensity.
So in summary. You got a pet doing most of the damage, if he dies, you can resummon him in a second, there's alot of raid synergy, because you apply spell power buffs. 10% crit chance from talents (/moist). And finally, You get to relax, and spam your SB button.
I think this will be better for 1 lock in the raid, instead of all of them. I'm thinking that all trees are viable for raiding, so this would be a metamorphisis tree raid spec. Someone who goes destro can grab the other 2/2 healthstone and improved imp, so you get improved bloodpact to the entire raid.
So... yeah.
Thoughts? Comments? Flames?
/wall of text
Post by
154897
This post was from a user who has deleted their account.
Post by
147588
This post was from a user who has deleted their account.
Post by
Kaitain
Indeed, you will need Fel Synergy.
Also - as both Demonic Empathy and Demonic Pact are fueled by pet crits, you really need 3/3 imp Demon Tactics.
You also need Demonic Sacrifice. An extremely useful 1 point talent for both in and out of combat.
To get these you will need to drop Devastation, Destructive Reach and Cataclysm.
Post by
Ragingtiger
Skipping Fel Synergy is beyond foolish.
Well, i don't know the raid bosses, but i felt that your pet shouldn't be taking any damage as it is, although the stat boosts are a tad bit good, i felt everything else outweighed it.
The thing is, we gotta work out what to drop, and what to keep.
0/50/21 is an incredible talent (in my eyes) because you have the amazing personal dps, plus the pet, and added survivability.
I'll look into things that would be good to keep and things that would be good to drop.
Post by
Kaitain
Unless they completely drop all raid damaging effects, you will need Fel Synergy.
The art of pet-spec raiding is being able to do a nuke rotation that is no more or less complicated than any other, but keep close watch and control over your pet at all times. Can you keep your pet from getting damaged 100% of the time? No. Can a small amount of attention from healers keep the pet up? Yes. Would i want to rely on this? No.
For a long time I FG raided with no Void Star Talisman and no t5 2-set bonus, and the difference those things made when i got them was huge. Now that these type effects are talents, i would get them. Self heal on a pet is worth way more than 6 yards of range and a threat decrease you don't need (as about 1/3rd of your threat is pet threat, and the pet not going to over-aggro ever).
And the 3/3 Imp Demon Tactics thing is a no brainer. Don't go for raid synergy then skimp on a talent that fuels it.
Post by
Shikuya
http://wotlk.wowhead.com/?talent=IZbgczsgoqzsguqoE00VM
Theres what I came up with. Could move some things around, but had to change a few things to get destructive reach, since you'll most likely need that. Demonic sacrifice doesn't need to be grabbed, but I got it for the situations when the *!@# hits the fan, and if your felguard was out he'd be toast. Prolly not going to happen with the new avoidance and talents, but like I said, its optional. Played around with a build kind of like this on the PTR, and empowerment is awesome, and the 15% healing helps alot. Pop meta every 5 mins for a 40% dmg increase, and this could be a very viable raid build.
Edit:
http://wotlk.wowhead.com/?talent=IZbgIzsg0q0sguVoE00VM
That might be better. Hopefully 1/3 mana feed would be enough to keep the felguard from going oom, if not add into it.
Post by
147588
This post was from a user who has deleted their account.
Post by
147474
This post was from a user who has deleted their account.
Post by
147588
This post was from a user who has deleted their account.
Post by
Ragingtiger
I'd need to see the math if +40% damage for xx seconds is better than a solid 5% crit all the time, to decide if meta is good.
Post by
147588
This post was from a user who has deleted their account.
Post by
147474
This post was from a user who has deleted their account.
Post by
120816
This post was from a user who has deleted their account.
Post by
Ragingtiger
False. It's now 20% dmg increase, so a solid 5% crit outdps's it by far.
Once i ding 80, i'm speccing this.
Post by
147588
This post was from a user who has deleted their account.
Post by
Ragingtiger
I'm not sure if an extra 20% of your crit given to your felguard is better than the crit chance of your felguard giving a 10% spellpower boost to the entire raid is better...
I think it depends on your gear levels, if your spell crit is high, and how hard your felguard hits, and what's more dps, felguard crits and 6% spell power boosts sorta often, or less felguard crits and 10% spell power boosts not as often.
Maybe i will switch the points around, once i get better gear and such, and spell crit rises, perhaps when you're in t7 or t8, then you can switch the points to benefit the raid more....
http://wotlk.wowhead.com/?talent=IZ0xIzsgMq0sxuIZE0hVM0z
there.
Post Reply
You are not logged in. Please
log in
to post a reply or
register
if you don't already have an account.