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Feral tanking in WotLK
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visas
I wouldnt use the term tougher, our armor and dodge potentials have both been pretty badly nerfed.
We do a lot more damage in bear now though... not that it counts for much in a raid.
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Emmerald
The current Beta Feral is not yet what it needs to be. The first pass was made on us, plus minor modifications needed for somewhat reasonable testing, but clearly the polish is lacking. Also the DPS numbers are currently too low (based on reports, I'm not in Beta myself). Because we are emulating other classes in our forms, Blizzard has to get those "parent" classes done first. Currently still both Warrior and Rogue are in flux, so tuning us makes no sense at this point.
We need patience, unfortunately, and constructive feedback (if you're in Beta or PTR). Please provide that, in constructive form, so that Blizz hears the issues we have. I'm sure thought-out suggestions are also welcome. I will reserve my final judgment until the time they get their release set done. If Ferals are still underperforming at that point, then I probably will whine a bit. :)
However, fears that we will be bad tanks because we lose some Armor are unfounded. If that were the only change, then it would make a difference. Now, it will be compensated elsewhere, and probably in a more well-rounded way. Our huge Armor has made us effective at physical damage absorption, up to the point that it has made us some sort of glass cannons. Spell-casters are our bane. In WotLK, we will gain (based on current talents) improved mitigation against all forms of incoming damage, without really losing anything significant from physical mitigation (when the 15% reduction is taken into account).
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Immaterial
Feral Instinct doesn't keep its 15% threat bonus though-
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I know that we can hit more stuff better (I spek gud!), but I want to have my threat cake AND eat it. And then hit it again.
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Zarantai
from what I heard, the threat bonus is built into the actual bear form itself. don't have any proof to substantiate my claims though :(
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xiphias
from what I heard, the threat bonus is built into the actual bear form itself. don't have any proof to substantiate my claims though :(
your half right, bear attacks now have a higher threat return than they previously did. But then the same goes for both warriors and paladins, so that part at least remains to be seen how effective it is.
Blizz is reworking the threat system for every class for WotLK, not just druids.
Part of that is also that blessing of salvation is being removed and baked into the tanks' stances/forms/buffs. (afaik at least)
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