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Kramp
Are you serious ?
Concussion blow will only stun a target for 5 secs, it will not increase your dps at all. Sweeping Strikes will litteraly double your dps in a perfect situation ( but will still be a very good bonus ) and don't forget Sweeping Strikes got 15 less seconds on his cooldown.
Flurry increase your rage income, Inscrease your white damage by 25% and is up almost all the time in combat. Enrage is not really good for leveling but it will still inscrease your dps a lot more than with others prot talents. It will not proc very often but 25% increase damage is very good.
Weapon Mastery = 8 expertise
Precision is very good. You seems to minimise our white hits damage income but as DW, it's our main source of dps. You NEED more hit.
And yes, losing Commanding presence and Rampage will hurt a LOT.
I am not saying you can't have an easy leveling experience with prot but your DPS will be far way from Fury.
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icritmypants
dude...not even close because you wear dps as fury warrior and tank gear as a tank so unless you got a free 17 slots of bag space you wont be able to do nearly as much. not to mention flurry is way better than you think, its a 25% boast attack speed every time you crit something. unbridaled wrath rank 5 goes off almost constant for me and finally getting both tank and dps gear would be highly unlikly in a group setting. also 4 expertise is equal to 1%
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marklartank
i think it's a good idea to go prot now if you want to tank, and it's not painful to solo/dps anymore because of devastate. however, i think you're underestimating sweeping strikes, bloodthirst, and flurry. those are big dps boosters. also, concussion blow is a double-edged sword - reduces incoming damage, but therefore reduces rage generation. i find i use it very little.
for normal instances you're fine - i've even gone into a couple heroics as DPS, but with decent blues i have trouble getting over 350-400dps. equivalently-geared fury warriors will be over 600.
unless you got a free 17 slots of bag space
this made me laugh. get used to it - i think i usually carry about 40 pieces of gear in my bag for various sets.
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Aedalas
dude...not even close because you wear dps as fury warrior and tank gear as a tank so unless you got a free 17 slots of bag space you wont be able to do nearly as much.
I personally carry about 30-35 pieces of gear on me at all times, even more in the bank for resist sets. why is this an issue?
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Sakkura
I personally carry about 30-35 pieces of gear on me at all times, even more in the bank for resist sets. why is this an issue?
I was wondering the same. I rarely need to remove my DPS gear or my tank gear from my bags, I can usually carry it all at the same time and still have 30+ slots available.
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Sakkura
i think it's a good idea to go prot now if you want to tank, and it's not painful to solo/dps anymore because of devastate. however, i think you're underestimating sweeping strikes, bloodthirst, and flurry. those are big dps boosters. also, concussion blow is a double-edged sword - reduces incoming damage, but therefore reduces rage generation. i find i use it very little.
for normal instances you're fine - i've even gone into a couple heroics as DPS, but with decent blues i have trouble getting over 350-400dps. equivalently-geared fury warriors will be over 600.
Well geared, a prot warrior can exceed 1k DPS. But it will always be significantly lower than fury.
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Frederic
Recount is skewed. Rather than comparing total time in combat to damage dealt it attempts to filter out down-time via a careful parse of the combat log. This has the tendency to get DPS specced warriors in trouble, as deep wounds leads the meter into thinking there is never any downtime while you are in combat due to a stream of bleed ticks appearing to it as if you were still DPS'ing, even if you are 20 yards away and currently turned to stone waiting for Gruul to Ground Slam.
In contrast, as a prot warrior if you experience a miss streak with no yellow attacks due to low rage, or are not attacking the opponent for some reason the time variable in the meter will stop incrementing upwards, which is does not do for a fury warrior. The greater time that a fury build has recorded logically results in lower reported DPS.
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Frederic
this is pretty true but ive leveled as prot and switched back and forth and i would suggest prot over fury leveling b/c in my experience you kill things just about as fast but the downtime is like nothing compared to fury. Fury is like 2-3 mobs maybe 4 before you eat. A similarly geared prot specd DW warrior can go through 5-7 but thats just me and my experience.
Of course. I actually specced points into prot when levelling 60+ in additiont to my points in fury because I decided that Impale was only a marginal improvement with low crit and a lower cost rage dump wasn't terribly useful if I wasn't operating with a huge excess of rage generation to begin with. Points in prot are certainly well spent for levelling builds, but that's not the OP's arguement here.
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