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Post by
solitha
When you found a link to an item on Wowhead, and later on it shows not to exist... ie, you click the link and get "This item doesn't exist or is not yet in the database."... that means it's been removed from the game files, right?
Post by
Erorus
Depends. Got an example?
Post by
solitha
Yep. Scroll down to my comment
here
. Two of the three items I linked, which made it appear to be a puzzle to be solved, have disappeared from the database. There are no items using their numbers now.
Post by
SoCalWoWGal
Yep. Scroll down to my comment
here
. Two of the three items I linked, which made it appear to be a puzzle to be solved, have disappeared from the database. There are no items using their numbers now.
FYI, by clicking on the date in the comment, you can copy the URL to link
the actual comment
URL code for reference:
http://www.wowhead.com/npc=88097/golk-the-rumble#comments:id=2448024
Post by
Erorus
When you found a link to an item on Wowhead, and later on it shows not to exist... ie, you click the link and get "This item doesn't exist or is not yet in the database."... that means it's been removed from the game files, right?
Yep. Scroll down to my comment
here
. Two of the three items I linked, which made it appear to be a puzzle to be solved, have disappeared from the database. There are no items using their numbers now.
Golk's Lockbox
and
Golk's Key
were probably not removed from the game.. at least, they have results in the Battle.net API which rarely shows removed items. However, when I try to link them in-game, it just sits there with a "Retrieving item information" tooltip. So, I'm not sure what happened.
In the past, it was very rare for any record to be
deleted
from the Wowhead database. If an item was "no longer available" or removed, like
Martin Fury
or
Deprecated Horse Summoning (Mount)
, usually the item sticks around with text to say it was removed. If you previously saw an item on the live site (not PTR), and it's no longer on the live site, then that's very unusual. If you saw it on the PTR but it never made it to live, well, that might happen sometimes.
Post by
solitha
So far as I know, Erorus, the items have never been seen in-game... only Wowhead's datamining ever showed that they might exist. I've considered it one of Legion's quiet little unsolved puzzles... but given how some puzzles have been broken (damn you shoeshine kit), I've never been certain it's solvable.
Then again we had the item for the fishing legendary, which ended up turning into a totally different item for the Consumption cavern thing. But obviously that's not what happened here. So I suppose there's still hope...
And thanks, SoCalWoWGal... I never had figured out how to do that. Hope I remember!
Post by
Calligraphy
Apologies for not responding sooner! I've been investigating this, but as you know, some patch decided to drop this week and had our attention.
I've been investigating this a little bit; right now it looks like these two items were removed from the game files somewhat recently-ish. Over the weekend before 7.3 launched, a ton of items were removed (one that comes to mind is the Astral Mana Potion - it existed up until a build that hit right before patch went live). I'll note, however, that I did confirm these still exist in SOME of the game's files, but appear to have recently been removed from other files. (For those who are familiar with DB2 files or are more interested in the technical details - these exist in Item.db2, but not in ItemSparse, which is likely why they've disappeared.)
I tried linking these items to myself in-game without a result. It sounds like these will probably be patched the rest of the way in during future weeks and are "hidden" for now.
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