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GenXCub
Well, first you'll have to ask your guild what their expectation is.
My guild doesn't pressure the DPS too much as long as they're in good gear.
In equal gear, don't be surprised if hunters and mages out-dps you... and if you out-dps a warlock as a ret paladin, please gkick that warlock from the guild (unless it's a demo lock who can't really use the pet in fights, for whatever reason).
Keep in mind that Frost mages, once they have 5/5 Winter's Chill up, will have about 45% crit rate on their Frost bolts, and a Kara geared frost mage should be hitting 4500 crits on their frost bolt, so every 2.5 seconds, you're seeing 2250 or 4500 damage. If you can't put that out every 2.5 seconds, don't be too discouraged.
Mages, Rogues, Hunters, and Warlocks are designed to put up big numbers. Hybrid classes like Balance Druids, Enhancement/Elemental Shamans, and Retribution Paladins are designed to be competitive, but instead of matching their numbers, will provide extra utility through judgments, blessings, totems, auras, etc.
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RubyDX
Full s2 seems a little extreme - you could probably do well with some pvp epics (weapon is the most important thing) and some dungeon blues
You could probably respec a little to get some more damage like Divine Str and 3/3 Crusade
Its been a while but I think the Kara min is about 12/1300 ap and around 23% crit
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Feanora
700-800 constant dps is a very reasonable goal to shoot for in full s2 gear. With windfury, there's no reason you can't get over 1000 on certain fights. Good luck, man.
Oh, and I'd personally take the extraneous points from Toughness (in the prot tree) and put them into Divine Strength (in the holy tree) for great justice. I'm just a rogue masquerading as a ret pally, though, so don't mind me.
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TheRealAzoth
I already have most of the marks for S1, so the upgrade to S2 won't be much more, hopefully. As far as I know S2 will have the exact same cost as S1 items. Your guild shouldn't require you be in full S2 for a Kara run. Seriously what's in it for you? You'll already be geared better than many items that drop in Kara so where's the benefit? The 22 badges, eh? I guess it depends on where your guild is progression wise. If your just getting through Kara then I can see why they wouldn't want to drag along a gimped 10th to gear up. If your guild has it on farm, then you should be able to get a spot at 68 and coattail your way through. You won't be able to use any drops until 70 but once you ding, they will be in your bank waiting.
Also remember that PvP gear is sorely lacking on hit rating which is one of the most important stat for raiding.
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