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I got banned for botting and never cheated in wow
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Post by
englo
I am telling the truth.
I have been farming for many years then my son moves home and plays from my IP adress and suddenly I get bannet for botting and I never used a bot. I have never used his laptop or his account.
As I wrote my son had a bot on his computer that he didnt tell me about so i didnt know what to look for or where to look. If I had to search for a bot I wouldnt even know what Word to search for to find it.
I asked Blizzard to help me find out what it was that flagged me for botting. I was so frustrated. I didnt know what to do when I didnt do anything wrong. I always respected Blizzard but after this i lost all respect for them. They just took my account and didnt give me the chance to appeal or proove they were wrong. So many ppl knows me in this game by now and they know I would never violate the rules. My Whole behavior in game since i started playing wow can proove it.
And Again. Why should I suddenly throw all I have worked on on my account away? I am not stupid.
How do you think it feels to Loose an account you have played on for almost 7 years whitouth violating any rules?
Why is it ppl have so much difficulties to believe a person. I am raised with believing in the good in pp, not to think bad of ppl.
when my son was living on that school for Young ppl he got a ban and and he never used it after. He just forgot to remove it from his pc and forgot that he had it.
As I wrote we searced for it on his laptop and found it and we deleted it. The fact is now that I actually dont know if we have removed everything related to it.
Post by
Jkpman
Why is it ppl have so much difficulties to believe a person. I am raised with believing in the good in pp, not to think bad of ppl.
Because you do not understand how the banning system works.
Blizzard have VERY specific methods of detecting bots and botters. (They do not ban you on a whim..and activity has nothing to do with it, they ban you because they have detected something on your account altering the way their client works, aka your son's botting program)
You failed to answer my questions.
Does your son have his WoW license on your battle.net account? (You do know the difference between game licenses and you battle.net account right?)
IF (As I suspect) your son has his game linked to the same Battle,net account as yours his botting could get your whole account shut down.
Post by
Shadoed
And Again. Why should I suddenly throw all I have worked on on my account away? I am not stupid.
How do you think it feels to Loose an account you have played on for almost 7 years whitouth violating any rules?
Why is it ppl have so much difficulties to believe a person. I am raised with believing in the good in pp, not to think bad of ppl.
In answer to the above,
All of this isn't really about whether you are telling the truth or not, remember that you are posting on a forum and only telling one side of the story, people will of course guess, speculate and theorize as to what actually happened.
There have been hundreds of posts like this on many different forums and as most will attest to here, you usually don't get the whole story, so you can forgive people for looking at it from the perspective that they do in that the most likely scenario is the one that turns out to be the case most of the time and in these cases it does tend to be that someone used Botting software and got caught doing it.
No-one here knows you or what type of person you are, you could be a perfectly nice person, you could be manipulative, you could be a one eyed bug beast from Mars for all we know and with that in mind all you can do is look at the cold hard facts and where they point, it isn't personal, it is just the way it is.
I think most advice on resolving the issue has been given, but just follow up if you do genuinely feel you have a case against this, call, live chat or even write to them explaining the situation, but other than that it is a life lesson hard learned.
Post by
englo
My son has his own battlenet account
I have my own battlenet account
They are not linket.
My son had a bot on his computer that he didnt use since he got a ban over a year ago and I got banned for farming when he moved home to me. Is that fair when i never used a bot? I am pretty sure if Blizzard wants they can check the ports and see that I didnt use a bot for farming. Our IP will be same but ports will be different.
But the frustrating thing is I cant contact them in any way they treat me like a criminal simply, not as a customer.
And sorry no I dont know much about computers and such and as I wrote earlier Bizzard banned me in chrismas too and I didnt even know what to look for when they wrote third party software. The only thing I knew for sure was that I didnt violate their rules.
It is not all ppl that is well known in computers and programs and they way I got treated is so depressive. I might be crazy, stupid or whatever ppl will call me but having my account banned that I played for for so man years and many hours of play makes me still cry because it was my life. (dont need to tell the reason)
I keep asking myself why is Blizzard not even giving me a chance to proove anything?
Post by
508201
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Post by
Jkpman
I keep asking myself why is Blizzard not even giving me a chance to proove anything?
Because you have no proof.
Your son is a botter and you can thank him for your ban.
You have to face up to the truth, kids do tell lies, Do you think it was a coincidence you were banned for botting and then your son just happens to have a botting program on his computer that he conveniently forgot about?
Post by
englo
Coincidence?
None of us have used the bot at my IP adress. He used it long time ago on another IP adress.
Second I have from day one asked blizzard to help me find out what it was but got rejected. How should I know that I could get banned if another person had a bot on my IP adress ? If blizzard had told me that i knew i would have had to ask my son or one of his mates that playes here almost every day.
Why punish me that have done nothing wrong ? They can check that my son got the ban over a year ago. they can check the adress at that time and the adress now he moved home. I have played many years without violating their rules and then my son moves home and I get banned.
Why believe the worst in ppl? When I write i never used that but and didnt know of they should give me a chance instead of just rejecting my appeal.
When he told me he might have that bot on his pc I yelled at him and we went in to find it and to remove it.
Coincidence is only that i did what i always have done in game. I flew around and farmed myself.
I am a nurse of proffession. If i did the same, judging ppl and not listen to them it would end up very badly for many of my patients.
Post by
englo
I cant give up yet, because this is making me so sad especially when I cant get in touch with anyone. Tbh if they have to ban anyone here it should be my sons account not mine.
Post by
508201
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Post by
Adamsm
I am a nurse of proffession. If i did the same, judging ppl and not listen to them it would end up very badly for many of my patients.Difference is...Blizzard saw suspicious activity on your account, which they are able to track. At this point, give it up, you are not going to be able to get your account back.
Post by
Jkpman
Coincidence?
None of us have used the bot at my IP adress. He used it long time ago on another IP adress.
You know that how?
I realize that parents can sometimes believe that their kids can do no wrong. (I was a teacher) but seriously there is no way you can be sure.
Second I have from day one asked blizzard to help me find out what it was but got rejected. How should I know that I could get banned if another person had a bot on my IP adress ? If blizzard had told me that i knew i would have had to ask my son or one of his mates that playes here almost every day.
Could be your son or his mate.
Like I said earlier Blizzard do not need to use their resources to help you when they have evidence of guilt, as for excuses.. why should they listen to you after banning you for a second time, can you not understand how they would just not give a crap about excuses?
Why punish me that have done nothing wrong ? They can check that my son got the ban over a year ago. they can check the adress at that time and the adress now he moved home. I have played many years without violating their rules and then my son moves home and I get banned.
Again that doesn't ring true, If there is no connection at all between your accounts then you wouldn't be banned.
Why believe the worst in ppl? When I write i never used that but and didnt know of they should give me a chance instead of just rejecting my appeal.
When he told me he might have that bot on his pc I yelled at him and we went in to find it and to remove it.
I actually do believe you THINK you did nothing wrong and I am sorry for your loss of account, but you need to understand that you are responsible for anything that happens on your account regardless of who uses it, and clearly someone else has been abusing your account.
You are guilty by association unfortunately. Again it is very hard for anyone here to believe your account was not linked to his and had nothing to do with the ban, whether you knew about it or not.
Coincidence is only that i did what i always have done in game. I flew around and farmed myself.
You don't get banned for that.
I am a nurse of proffession. If i did the same, judging ppl and not listen to them it would end up very badly for many of my patients.
No, actually if you had evidence that a person was drunk (could smell the alcohol) and they were prescribed medication that would react with the alcohol, you would not administer it no matter how much they protested they were sober. At some point you would just start ignoring their protests.
It's the same principle, Blizzard have evidence, they just don't want to hear your excuses anymore.
You spend a lot of time on here protesting your innocence, maybe you could use that time better and interrogate your son and his friends to find out exactly what really happened.
Post by
ElhonnaDS
The reason that people here are being so hard on your explanation, is that it does not make sense from a technical standpoint.
As a nurse, let me give you a scenario. Lets say that as part of a screening you do on a patient, you do a urinalysis that checks for illegal substances in their system. Lets say that this test comes back positive for cocaine. When presented with the positive test results, the patient makes the following claims.
1) That 20 years ago, they were exposed to someone who smoked crack, though they did not smoke it themselves, and that was probably responsible for the positive result now.
2) Their son had tested positive for cocaine in the past, and since they have the same street address, even though they live in different apartments, and even though he hadn't smoked it in a couple of years, the fact that he had tested positive in the past, and his paperwork had the same address, was why it showed up in their urine test.
3) The son might have used crack in his apartment, 6 floors up, and so even though they did not come into contact with the substance because they were separate domiciles, just the fact that it was used at the same street address would have caused it to show up in their blood.
If a patient told you that these were the reasons that they had a positive test, you would know for a fact that they were lying, because of the nature of the test you did that yielded the result in the first place.
- Because it is checking for what is in the urine at the time of the test, you know that you wouldn't get a positive result now for something that happened 20 years ago, because that wouldn't still be in your system.
- As a nurse, you know that the test is based on what is in the patient's urine at the time, not whether there are other people in the computer system who have had a positive test with a common address. Someone else having been tested who happened to have the same address would do nothing to affect what is actually found in someone's urine stream. The test is determined chemically, not by cross-referencing patient information and looking for other people's results.
- As a nurse, you know that the substance being present in the building 6 floors up wouldn't be enough to show up on your test. Unless someone used it close enough for them to breathe it in, there was no way for it to show up in the person's blood. That argument makes zero sense and sounds like something that someone who has no idea what the science is behind the test would make up because it sounds like it could be plausible to them.
If someone came back day after day and told you, as a nurse, to change their chart and erase this positive test result regardless of what you know to be true, you absolutely should ignore them. If you tell someone two or three times that you will not change the record because their urine tested positive, and they keep asking what proof you have because they don't really understand what that means, there is a point where you stop trying to explain because you've already explained it a number of times and they're just not getting it. If you chose not to explain every detail of what methods and procedures you used, because you didn't want people to go home and try and figure out what they can do to fool the test, that would certainly be a reasonable security precaution.
The explanation that you give here does not make sense based on how the tests work, and so it sounds made up. Either made up by you, or made up by your son to cover for having done something that cost you your account. Here are the things you need to accept:
- Blizzard does not ban by IP- they ban by account. They do not ban everyone at a college when one person bots. When someone loses an account, they can go and buy the game again and make a new one that they play using the same IP, without losing the new account. They do not get positive test results on an account, and then cross reference that IP with every other account on file to make sure that they ban anyone else at this address. If your account was not being played with the botting program active, you would not have been banned.
- "Not Using" the program could mean a couple of things. If the program was still on the computer, still active, and still loading when your son logged into wow, and he just didn't actually bot with it, then he's still violating the rules because the program is still accessing the game files. If a teacher finds that a student has written down all the answers on a cheat sheet and brought it to a test, they can fail them for cheating without having to prove that every question that they answered they checked the sheet for, because the evidence that they brought and used the tools to cheat at all is enough. If they want to make sure that they don't appear to be cheating, they don't bring a cheat sheet to the test.
If your son had actually uninstalled it, and it was just somewhere in downloads or in a file and not installed, then it wouldn't have been detected because it wasn't actively accessing the game files. In either case, it only would have shown up on your account if your account had been accessed on the machine with the program while the program was installed.
The only likely scenario, if you are the innocent party here, is that your son screwed up and got you banned. He would have to have logged into your account on the computer with the botting software installed in order to have cost you your account. Maybe he just needed a glyph, or a gem, or something you had or could make and didn't think you would mind. Maybe he was checking out how a class played so he could decide on an alt. Maybe he was using your high level characters to dual-box and run an alt through dungeons to level them faster. That's assuming both accounts got banned. If only yours did, then he was only running the software when your account was active, and he intentionally risked your account rather than his own to do something.
If you weren't the one responsible, it's natural to be upset, but I think you're directing at the wrong people. If someone's son smokes crack while they're sleeping in the room, so that they get exposed without knowing and then they get in trouble for having it in their system, should they be more angry with the son who cared so little for their well-being that he put them in the position to test positive for it, or the police who aren't just taking their word that they had no idea how they got crack in their system? The person who really lost you your account was your son. He has cheating software because he is a cheater, and he likely lied to you about using your account and made up some bogus story that makes you look really technologically uninformed when you repeat it. This is not Blizzard's fault- it's his, and you need to start working on what he is going to do to make it right by you rather than trying to persuade Blizzard of something that cannot be true.(##RESPBREAK##)8##DELIM##ElhonnaDS##DELIM##
Post by
Shadoed
Why believe the worst in ppl? When I write i never used that but and didnt know of they should give me a chance instead of just rejecting my appeal.
I am a nurse of profession. If i did the same, judging ppl and not listen to them it would end up very badly for many of my patients.
If you are truly a nurse by profession then you know the answer to your own question and that is that people tell you what they want you to hear, not always the truth. If you are taking every patient at face value and believing everything they say then i would guess that they are in far more trouble than if you were a little suspicious and follow the facts rather than what they tell you.
This is the thing about this thread that i was saying earlier, people will consider what you say but always keep in mind that it is only one side of the story and also whether the facts bear out what you are saying and to most it just doesn't add up.
As has been said already on here, we always see the same excuses but they never seem to add up from others personal experience in that myself i have farmed for hours and hours in the same places around and around the same nodes and never been banned. I have transferred tens of thousands of gold between characters on both of my accounts and never been banned because none of it was to do with botting or illegal trading.
See through all of your appeals, but at some point you may need to accept that it is time to move on or set up another account.
Post by
englo
I only had 2 appeals and never got the third as the email adress they linked to me is returning all mails.
Second my account and my sons account is not linked unless they are looking at the bank account that pays. My son doesnt have any income so I pay for him.
I was farming a lot and my son didnt use my account, he hates to farm.
Frustrating is that yes i made a new account now and i dare not go farm or anything cause i still dont know if it was the bot my son had on his pc or it is something in my new pc that is wrong.
I dont know anything about this.
No matter what is happening everyone should have a right to be heard and listened to. If blizzard banned thousands of account im not the only one.
If anyone knows where to make a post please tell.
venligst Lene
Post by
Adamsm
You were listened to; you had your two appeals. Time to shrug and accept it. Look up online on how to scan your PC to make sure there isn't anymore software, don't let your son use it ever again, and honestly, make him get his own income so that if something happens again, it won't come back on you.
Post by
Shadoed
Frustrating is that yes i made a new account now and i dare not go farm or anything cause i still dont know if it was the bot my son had on his pc or it is something in my new pc that is wrong.
No matter what is happening everyone should have a right to be heard and listened to. If blizzard banned thousands of account im not the only one.
You have sort of answered a couple of your previous questions there in this post as you have managed to create a new account, so that answers the question about banning by IP address, so the issue would have been with your account on your machine. In terms of what was wrong, you have already said that you were temp banned for botting and as far as Blizzard are concerned they caught you at it again, hence the perma ban.
You have had your right to be listened to, Blizzard overturned one of your bans so you know they do listen, but they are obviously of the opinion that the evidence far outweighs the appeal reasons you are giving (once bitten, twice shy as they say).
As far as being scared to farm, that is not the case, as long as you are doing it legitimately there should not be an issue, my sons and i have farmed mats for hours on end some times and never been so much as a hint of a ban or warning.
Post by
Jkpman
I was farming a lot and my son didnt use my account, he hates to farm.
Yes which is why his botting got you banned. Even if he didn't use your account he may have used your computer, or allowed his friend to use your computer.
Everything else you said has been explained to you until people are blue in the face.
Farming doesn't get you banned, if it did I'd have been banned years ago so would many other people on this forum.
I spent hours upon hours going in circles from Vanilla to now, following the same route, farming stacks and stacks of herbs and ore.
Of course I'd never use a bot and am the sole account holder, so that behavior is perfectly safe.
If anyone knows where to make a post please tell.
venligst Lene
Try calling them
But really you should just bite the bullet and learn your lesson.
Post by
1220584
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Post by
Jkpman
I'd love to believe this guy.
But his story stinks
real bad.
The OP is female.
I believe she thinks she has done nothing wrong, but I also think she is too naive where her son is concerned.
It's highly likely that her son is the real culprit here, either by using her computer without permission or her account.
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992790
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