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Will Zygor leveling guide addon get me banned?
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Post by
Maurvyn
If every place in town is offering you a free car wash, why would you choose the one place where you have to pay for it?
For the same reason people buy gluten-free mouthwash, 'All Natural' Hot Pockets, BPA Free Shoelaces, and 'Organic' Cheetos.
Some people have more money than brains.
There is actually a documented cognitive response wherein some people believe that something is better when they paid more money for it, even when they are shown there was no functional difference. They cannot reconcile in their own heads the dissonance between marginal, pecuniary value, and actual value.
Placebos even work better when people pay for them, and the more expensive looking the packaging, the better they work as well.
Back to OP: 8 years ago I was a huntard who stacked stamina and thought I needed a healer to come rez my pet.
I leveled just fine without shelling out for a guide.
Thanks, wowhead.
Post by
Adamsm
Adamsm, would you appreciate prejudice against you like this for a product of yours, and please answer this question, let's see your rebuttal opinion here.If I had a product that sold for money, and people could get the exact same thing for free, I wouldn't hold it against them to post that. Again, the idea of spending money on this, when you can get the exact same information for free just seems silly to me.
Question my cred all you want; I do not care. I will continue to inform people that they can get the exact same information that is in Zygor for free; want the quest flow thing, get Questhelper. Want to find out the 'best' leveling path, check the guides here. Want to know where to pick up some quick upgrade items, check the data base on Wowhead.
My personal opinion is that the guide is something that fleeces money from people. I don't have anything against those who use it, they are free to spend their money however they want. After all, my own money choices are not always the best.
Post by
kinship
Yeah... Still doesn't justify the incorrect allegation you stated.
I do care about reading information that is correct.
I will go through the free addon's from the curse client and report back with screenshots between the two. Not for you, for the rest who want to know the truth.
Post by
lonewolfe31705
Why does this thread keep getting brought back up? If you want to spend $50 to "level faster" do it. If not, then drop it. Sheesh....
Post by
Adamsm
Feel free to. However, I will say again: The whole questing thing that Zygor provides? You can get all of that information right here on Wowhead, since under each zone they have the quests labeled and marked...and really, since Blizzard started absorbing Carbonite into it's standard UI system, you can tell where you need to go, who you need to kill and what you need to do without some third system popping up to tell you so.
Post by
Jkpman
....It was a joke; and dropping 50 bucks for something that you can get for free seems incredibly idiotic to me.
I was not aware WowHead could auto accept and turn in quests and select my quest reward for me.
I was not aware WowHead had a directional arrow that would point me to my quest items/mobs.
I was not aware WowHead could sell all my grey items just by talking to a vendor.
I was not aware WowHead could make resources flash on my mini-map to draw my attention to nodes, herbs, and battle pets.
I was not aware WowHead could provide a small viewer window that would show me my quest items or mob objectives so I would not have to alt tab everytime I wondered what something looked like.
I was not aware WowHead could keep me from staying in the game rather than constantly alt-tabbing for information.
I was not aware WowHead was paying you to promote them. Maybe, instead of looking down your nose at how people spend their money, and classifying someone's personal preference and action as idiotic, you might just take off the blinders and understand there are other ways to do things, and not just your own. People should be entitled to every available option, not just the same old parroted line of
"Come to WoWHead, it's free." Some of us can afford convenience. We all pay $180 a year to play a game. I would say $50 for LIFE is hardly a ripoff.
How much are Zygor guides paying you?
My two cents.
Zygor seems to be a decent product, personally I use Carbonite which pretty much does everything Zygor does for FREE.
In a game where people drop $25 for a digital star pony then $50 for something that actually does something isn't much at all.
Those saying the add on isn't value for money should bear in mind that many say that about World of Warcraft, why pay a subscription when there are free MMOs out there?
So.. have a nice cup of STFU and let people spend their disposable income however they want to. k?
Post by
Adamsm
You know...looking back at that post, pretty much everything he said there is already in game; there are quests that do provide an image of what you need to kill, the resource tracker is already on the map, there is a quest arrow that points to where you need to go, quite a few quests are auto accept. Except for selling the grays(which there are free addons for) I still don't see the need to pay money for that...but then again, I own all of the Blizzard store pets and mounts so take that as you will.
Post by
kinship
Look of-course Wowhead covers all that, I just don't want to tediously minimize the game to search and read posts to find my way (sometimes sifting through many outdated comments), to me Zygor is about convenience and
stays up to date
, letting you stay in-game and having what you're looking for to show immediately, It has vastly more guides than mentioned above in SupermanBladesEd's most recent post.
I'll send a screenshot when I play again in the next few days. Maybe I'm missing something, is there an in game Wowhead client that does what Zygor does, or is the website the only way?
I'm not gonna post anymore after the screenshot, than you guys can do your thing :).
Post by
Adamsm
Set the comment section to highest rated and you don't have to worry about searching. Things are also pinned on the maps so you can get the co-ords that way as well. Myself, I play window mode so it's just a matter of alt tabbing back to Wowhead which I always have open anyways /shrug
But honestly, pretty much everything that is mentioned in the guide is available in game or there is a free add-on version as well; so it's not so much a bashing of Zygor as it's there are alternatives for those who think that putting down $50 for it is a bit costly.
Post by
Maurvyn
Honestly if the add-on does all the things it claims to do, why even bother playing?
For just a little bit extra, they will probably just bot out your toon for you so you can just sit back and watch it level by itself.
Screw actually reading quests, or thinking about the game, or making decisions, or even playing the game.
It's not even about the money. Spend your money any way you wish.
But if you really want that much automation built in to a game, you may want to rethink the kinds of games you're playing.
And if you feel you need that much automation in order to play the game because it's all just too confusing otherwise...yeah, also rethink the kind of games you're playing.
I think one of this latter breed was the tank in LFD the other day.
Post by
kinship
Hahaha Maurvyn,
That is quite an extensive perception of an add-on. Kinda funny.
Post by
Maurvyn
.... an add-on. .
Not any add-on. Some are quite useful. Some make parts of the game or UI better optimized, others provide you with information you have no other way of getting in game, like DPS statistics.
IMO, an add-on should enhance your game, not subsume it.
If you need an add-on to tell you which quest reward to pick, or show you things that are already marked quite clearly on the maps, or to point you in the right direction with an even bigger, flashier arrow, you really ought to examine why you are playing WoW to begin with.
There are lots of games out there where you get to just click on the flashing thing when it flashes, and they don't charge you a sub.
If you honestly can't play the game without alt-tabbing to wowhead or another guide every few minutes for advice and help, what would possess you to try an immersive MMORPG style game like Warcraft in the first place?.
Post by
kinship
Maurvyn,
Yeah maybe you right, I'll go play on my phone ... :'(
Are yoooooooo maaaaaaad? haha.
We all have our own style, I just have Zygor as a preference as a guide instead of using the others. We have a limited time to live, why waste precious seconds.
I use the typical DPS statistic add-on like 'Recount' to let me see which rotations work best in a Raid and through my many years since Warcraft 1 from Blizzard I play this immersive game because I enjoy what blizzard has to offer and you don't get to decide or set the bar for me, I do :).
Zygor in no way turns the game into what you're saying, it does not make you a pigeon, you still need to do the work and do the fights to learn your rotations yourself, you know this, you still need to fight your way through instances with or without an add-on. It guides you where to go, we have all learned our relative rotations for our toons through research and social methods. I play WoW for the same reason you do, I've just chosen to defend a product from false prejudice whether it's paid for or not for pure good.
Wait a second, yes, what about the entire PvP element of the game that I play which has nothing to do with my 20% game time I use on questing which has NOTHING to do with Zygor or add-ons. So being questioned if I should evaluate what I play by you seriously has taken it way to far.
If you or your product were under the spot light under false pretense, I would defend you to, to the death; no matter your charge or if it were free. This ain't about pigeon style gaming or insulting anyone, it's about making comments about others with a little more consideration.
How about this truthful perspective, Zygor has a once off fee with no advertising, whereas Wowhead has advertising on every page and to remove it you have to pay $2.50 every month. Any product that has advertising is NOT regarded as free because advertising generates cashflow, so why has it been stated in this forum that it is free? Anyone who enjoys ad blocks in your face, please raise your hands.
Post by
twsX
It baffles me how enthusiastic people here get about whether to use or not to use Zygor....
Is it more efficient than using other addons? Probably not. More efficient than using no addons and getting your info on Wowhead (or a similar site)? Maybe a little, because there's less searching and reading and tabbing.
As for myself, I kinda like having Zygor steady and ready to use whenever I feel like leveling an alt but watching a movie / a series on the side. What it does do for you is take away a lot of the thinking (something you usually probably wouldn't want, but comes in very handy if much of your concentration isn't on the game but on a movie instead). I think it's lovely for that.
Although I'd never pay 60$ for that. Fortunately, copies of the addon are sprayed around the internet like crazy.
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