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Post by
gnomerdon
if i'm really honest. after being bored of all of the women.
i would become a wow dwarf and pilfer my guts with hard ale, singing, dancing, sleeping and waking up in the tavern 10 in the morning. when i look at myself in the mirror after waking up, i would see 1 black eye, a cut, and a very happy person.
Post by
Rankkor
a sci fi world where i'm the only male and surrounded by hundreds of beautiful females that want me.
:l
1 can only dare to think they can dream.
This already happened on the comic "Y: The Last Man" lemme tell ya something: it didn't ended well.
For him I mean :P
As for my answer:
Ohhh so many options, so little time. Lets see:
The VTM universe. Yep, me being a Brujah Vampire, bashing some camarilla heads, slaying werewolves, and riding a chopper bike. With my sweet Reina (Who would be a Toreador-Vampire as well) at my side. sawed off shotgun on one hand, a machete in the other, with the night and eternity on the horizon as gehena draws closer =D
Secondary option would be the Mass Effect universe (I've always been fascinated with space travel).
Third option would be............. gee I dunno, the Fallout universe? OHH HELL NO xD just kidding :P
Post by
ElhonnaDS
Rank...other than the bloodlines video game, how far into the universe did you get? VTM Vampires lose their humanity when they frenzy, and they have no control over it. You would like to be a creature that could rip the throat out of hapless women and children when you lose control, and would eventually devolve into a creature that couldn't fee love, pity, remorse, etc.?
Post by
Patty
Narnia, oviously. I'd get killed and looted in Azeroth, or raped in Westeros, or basically something horrible would happen anywhere else.
Although I would like to live on somewhere like Cocoon or Academia. Without the whole let's kill the world thing. Or maybe the Suikoden-verse. So many pretty people in pretty much all of them. <3
Post by
Skreeran
Equestria, obviously.
Post by
Rankkor
Rank...other than the bloodlines video game, how far into the universe did you get? VTM Vampires lose their humanity when they frenzy, and they have no control over it. You would like to be a creature that could rip the throat out of hapless women and children when you lose control, and would eventually devolve into a creature that couldn't fee love, pity, remorse, etc.?
You do realize of course that you only frenzy if you give into the beast right? Its actually preventable. Just don't kill anyone you don't have to, cling to what little humanity you have left, don't go on rampages butchering innocents, and the blood of the beast will be subdued. No frenzy risk or anything. (Although Brujah are a bit more prone to frenzy than the other bloodlines, its part of their main (and one) drawback)
As for not feeling love, or pity, or remorse, again, depend on the person. Malkavians go completely crazy (in a random way, could be simple paranoia, could be full blown catatonia) Tzmitse become more or less demons, who lack any form of pity, mercy, empathy, or remorse. But most other bloodlines rettain their personality they had in life. And as far as I know, as long as you don't go feral, you don't lose that.
Frenzy is something that only happens to reckless vampires who kill their victims when they feed, or to vampires that go too long without feeding. But the Feeding act itself doesn't kill the victim (in fact, for the victim its quite pleasant. Like an orgasm. I didn't needed to spring that image though)
Feed often, don't kill the person you fed from, attack only when attacked first, don't commit inhumane actions, and the inner-beast is subdued. Zero frenzy.
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Post by
gamerunknown
Probably a universe of unbidden hedonism. Brave New World perhaps. Hanging out with The Dude, Withnail, or in the Restaurant at the End of the Universe. There are more giddy extremes, but they come with significant risks. Don't want to end up like Fritz the Cat.
Post by
ElhonnaDS
@Rank- Actually, the sight of blood and/or fire incites frenzy, as does being hungry, and certain disciplines can be used by other vampires to make you frenzy. If they dumbed it down for the video game, I can see that you wouldn't know that, but in all of the literature and all of the tabletop rules, you have a chance to resist but you do not have absolute control. Sorry. Brand new vampires are fairly similar to how they were in life, but eventually almost all of them fall- maybe not feral, but cold and inhuman. And the clan weakness of a Bruja is that they frenzy more easily, and are less able to control it. I can tell you haven't had much exposure beyond the video game.
#162- How do you comfort yourself when you're sick? Soup, ginger ale, home remedies, marathons of your favorite shows?
Post by
Rankkor
Actually, the sight of blood and/or fire incites frenzy, as does being hungry I know, I said that above. But I don't plan on being set on fire, nor starve myself, or go on rampages, so risk of frenzy is lower.
certain disciplines can be used by other vampires to make you frenzy If they dumbed it down for the video game, I can see that you wouldn't know that, but in all of the literature and all of the tabletop rules, you have a chance to resist but you do not have absolute control.
Again, I know, it didn't showed up on bloodlines, but it did on VTM Redemption. It still requires having an enemy vampire cast it on you. I'm not the type to have enemies, and if I do, they tend to back away.
And the clan weakness of a Brujah is that they frenzy more easily, and are less able to control it.
Again, I know, I said so on my previous post, see? They still only frenzy if in combat, every time they feel pain, their chance to frenzy is larger. This would be a problem if I wanted to go on rampages, but I don't. And if I did, it would be on camarilla/sabbat turf, not on a neighborhood of innocent victims. Other than that, I wouldn't plan on being in a constant state of battle, unless it was to protect myself.
I can tell you haven't had much exposure beyond the video game. I played both games (Redemption and Bloodlines) and read a few booklets, but yes, I sadly never got to play the actual tabletop game =( it never made it to venezuela. I got as much material as I could, and once the internet was born, I read as much of the lore as I could find online, but other than that, yes my exposure to the material is limited. Having said that, I'm fairly knowledgeable of the weaknesses of the Brujah to know they wouldn't just frenzy randomly for no apparent reason. That's the weakness of the Gangrels who become more and more feral over time.
#162- How do you comfort yourself when you're sick? Soup, ginger ale, home remedies, marathons of your favorite shows?
Depends on the illness. For common cold, I take some soup, and play videogames. If the sickness is bad enough that I cant play (or can't properly focus/concentrate while playing) I read a few books, or watch some of the DVDs of my favorite shows.
Post by
ElhonnaDS
@Rank- the common theme throughout Vampire is the slow loss of everything that makes you human, and becoming a predator. Even the more "refined" clans are predatory- they're just more subtle about it. It's what the game is about- some characters embrace it, some fight it with everything in them that is still human- but at the end, no one escapes it.
A new vampire has enemies just by virtue of being new. They have the enemies of their sires. They have enemies by virtue of being camarilla or sabbat. They have enemies in the Hunters and the Garou. Every other Vampire views you as a threat or a pawn- there is no loyalty, no bonds of friendship or love, and no concern for others beyond mutual self-interest. There is no such thing as a VTM vampire without enemies, and a vampire is either new enough that no elder will "back off" of them because the power difference makes them laughable, or they're old enough that they are powerful, but have already lost much of their humanity in surviving to that age. If you're weak, you die. If you're strong, you are constantly challenged and you have to kill and betray. It's not about vampires who like going on a rampage becoming feral- every vampire that doesn't reach Golconda (which is so rare as to be considered a myth), and doesn't die, succumbs to the beast eventually.
Post by
Rankkor
Fair enough. Though I will add a little footnote:
Even the more "refined" clans are predatory- they're just more subtle about it. It's what the game is about- some characters embrace it, some fight it with everything in them that is still human- but at the end,
no one escapes it
.
The salubri did. Admittedly, they also got mostly wiped out by the tremere....... which doesn't seem to make it any better =/
And golconda, while incredibly rare, is still a goal that theoretically "could" be reached, so its not like its 100% guaranteed hopelessness. All I'm saying is that there are ways to subdue the inner beast, other clans have made it, I'm no stranger to struggle, and having to work hard, compromise, and make sacrifices to achieve what I want, so I fully believe I could make it happen if I lived in the VTM world.
I will quote Phaartunax from Skyrim:
"
No day goes by where I am not tempted to return to my inborn nature. Zin krif haalvut se sulyek.(Honor fights the temptation of power) But I ask, what is better? To be born good, or to overcome your evil nature through great effort
?"
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Post by
ElhonnaDS
@Rank- That's my point- the Salubri tried to be more human, and it made them weak, and they were destroyed by people who wanted to be Vampires, and were willing to act predatory to get there. That's what Vampire does- it destroys people who aren't willing to be that predator. And also, if you look at some of the Salubri talents, their rituals that make them the most "human" take an awful lot of blood- for the one that grants you temporary life (almost) you have to drain like 2 people to death every single time. So trying to be human =/= trying to be a good person in their case.
I agree that Goldoconda is a possibility. But when I ask about an "ideal" situation, generally I'm not looking for one where there's a really slim chance I'll be immortal and a great person, but most likely I'll just become a sociopath.
Post by
Rankkor
I agree that Goldoconda is a possibility. But when I ask about an "ideal" situation, generally I'm not looking for one where they're a really slim chance I'll be immortal and a great person, but most likely I'll just become a sociopath.
The concept of struggling to overcome your very flawed nature, and achieve an ascended state is one I find attractive. Perhaps not "ideal" but its something I can admire.
Its something I had to go through while in sabaneta, several of the higher-tiered gangs offered me a position as one of their Enforcers/Hitmen, after watching me fight to defend myself, with all the benefits and downsides it entails (Money, drugs, women, power, and of course, the unmentioned but innevitable downside: Adiction, corruption, constant danger to me and my loved ones, and a near guaranteed probability of being killed, rather than die of old age)
I'd be a bloody liar if I said it was easy for me to reject those offers, they were tempting, and more than once I almost considered the possibility of accepting, and embracing a future like that. It took a lot of willpower, conviction, and inner will to turn them down at every point.
It felt good to be able to reject that evil, and leave that grim part behind, so in the VTM setting, I'd like the chance to attempt to subdue the inner beast. hard as it may seem.
And also, if you look at some of the Salubri talents, their rituals that make them the most "human" take an awful lot of blood- for the one that grants you temporary life (almost) you have to drain like 2 people to death every single time. So trying to be human =/= trying to be a good person in their case.
Wait but........... the salubri can only drink from willing victims. How would someone willingly let themselves be drained to death?
Post by
donnymurph
I go about my life as normal. If I'm too ill to do that, I go to hospital.
Post by
ElhonnaDS
@Rank- they glossed over a lot in the video games- I don't remember that restriction in the rulebooks. In fact, the Salubri shouldn't even be around in modern nights, if you go cannon. But assuming someone can only drink from a willing victim, you can be tricked into thinking they won't kill you, blood bound and totally willing to do whatever your master wants, under the effects of the Dominate Disciplines, etc.
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Monday
#162- How do you comfort yourself when you're sick? Soup, ginger ale, home remedies, marathons of your favorite shows?
Watching streams and eating chocolate muffins.
Speaking of that, this muffin is really good.
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