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This is exactly why you hear of cheating in so many places -- MMOs, sports, politics, etc. When you feel that "the other guy" is doing something sketchy to get a leg up over you, you either can be honest and lose any chance of getting ahead or even staying in the running, or you can take the risk of being caught (or not being punished if you are) and cheating, like the "other guy" does. And it snowballs into a general disrespect for the rules and an "anything goes" mentality.The only winning move is not to play.
I guess it's might be the proto-ruthless dictator in me, but a 8 day ban doesn't seem harsh enough. If my guild were to do that there might have been perma-bans. Just because these guys get world firsts shouldn't make them special, in fact Blizz should come down on them like a ton of rectangular building things because they are world first guilds. These are the people who are the "leaders" of the community, we shouldn't just give them a slap on the wrist. This really is showing favoritism towards members of the player base. The temp ban hopefully stays in place...I like to know that Blizz still has a spine and won't give in to the every whim of the hardcore raid set.
Oh come on. World firsts guilds have used every exploit imaginable since the first days of this game. It is time Blizzard actually does something about it. Eight days is not enough. They should be getting permanent bans, especially since they are the ones that test this content and probably knew about the bug since testing in beta.
Blizzad doesnt have the guts to give a perma ban.... they are afraid of the dark...void
I was surprised it was an 8-day ban: I'd expected around 2 days. But good on Blizz - coming down hard on people that abuse the system might actually have an effect on others who think about exploiting.
The bans are justified, but on the other hand I don't blame the top guilds for acting exactly the way they did.Think of it this way: You, as the leadership of a top-tier guild, are aware of a publicly-known exploit such as this one. Your competition is exploiting it. Blizzard is either going to do something about it or not. If they don't and you end up two bosses behind everyone else at your level because you elected not to use the exploit, you look like a chump, but if Blizzard does do something about it and you get caught doing it as well, then the world first-iness of the entire raid tier is screwed anyway. Yeah you got a bunch of your raid banned, but so did every top 100 guild, so who cares?You're either doing wrong and getting caught with anyone else, or doing wrong and getting away with it with everyone else. There's no disadvantage relative to your real competition to exploiting the bug, no matter how Blizzard responds.I've said it before and I'll say it again: the only way to avoid having this problem entirely, the only unambiguous solution, is for Blizzard not to release content with these sorts of exploits in the first place. I'm willing to admit the H LK problems were understandable, since you can't do a hell of a lot of testing of that tier of content since there are so few testers capable of handling it, but here we're talking about bugs in content specifically designed to be near-universally acceptable.