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What ilvl do you expect to drop in the new 5 man's in 4.3?
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Post by
Ashelia
384 sounds about right, maybe something like 387 or a random # like how they did 353 for ZG/ZA.
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Interest
I think it may be less than that. I'm guessing at 371-372 myself.
The reason is because I find it unlikely the new Heroic 5-man equipment is superior to Firelands equipment (just like ZG/ZA were not for tier 11, despite them being implemented 1 major patch after the raids themselves.)
Although, it would be interesting if 5-man Heroic gear was superior to the Firelands normal stuff.
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Atik
I think it may be less than that. I'm guessing at 371-372 myself.
The reason is because I find it unlikely the new Heroic 5-man equipment is superior to Firelands equipment (just like ZG/ZA were not for tier 11, despite them being implemented 1 major patch after the raids themselves.)
Although, it would be interesting if 5-man Heroic gear was superior to the Firelands normal stuff.
Do not underestimate the whining casuals.
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Interest
I think it may be less than that. I'm guessing at 371-372 myself.
The reason is because I find it unlikely the new Heroic 5-man equipment is superior to Firelands equipment (just like ZG/ZA were not for tier 11, despite them being implemented 1 major patch after the raids themselves.)
Although, it would be interesting if 5-man Heroic gear was superior to the Firelands normal stuff.
Do not underestimate the whining casuals.
I'm hardly doing so. =P
Post by
Porcell
I'll assume that the gear we get now (10 and 25) would be like getting 25 man gear. So ignoring 10 man WotLK ilvls:
Reg Heroics: 200
Naxx Tier 7: 213
Ulduar Tier 8: 226
ICC 5-man: 219/232
ToC Tier 9: 245 / 258
ICC Tier 10: 264 / 272
Cata Heroic: 346
Zx: 353
Cata Tier 11: 359 / 372
Cata Tier 12: 378 / 391
So, it looks like the current trend is for Tiers to go up by about 19 item levels. And heroics are anywhere from one to two tiers behind.
So I'd guess that Tier 13 will be 397 / 410 item level, and the new "ICC-like" heroics would be in 368-72 area most likely; about half a tier behind the previous tier level.
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Azrile
I am guessing 378. A full tier above the easy stuff we are getting from fireland daily´s and craftables.
It is definitely going to be significantly above 365, since nobody doing the new heroics should be in less than weapons you can get from crafting or from the AH. Kinda forget about raids, and look at it from 5-man and solo perspective
353 from troll dungeons
365 from fireland dailies and crafting
378 from heroic dungeons.
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Porcell
I just can't see them making the new heroics have the same item level as the previous tier. It would make Firelands completely pointless. I still think it will be a half step below Firelands, ~369.
Post by
deathbyte
I think they will be on par with the t11 Heroic raids (ilvl372)
Post by
Deepthought
or a random # like how they did 353 for ZG/ZA.I don't think the decision to make them iLevel 353 was a random one. 353 is halfway between 346 and 359 (rounded up).
On the topic of the new 5 mans, I agree with Porcell, 369 or thereabouts feels about right.
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Interest
I just can't see them making the new heroics have the same item level as the previous tier. It would make Firelands completely pointless. I still think it will be a half step below Firelands, ~369.
I was actually thinking between 365 (Molten Front daily gear ilvl), and Firelands (378).
Hence why I reached the conclusion above.
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