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Post by
xavierpjg
ZAKKHAR THANKYOU
Ok here we go I'll use my mage with 16 mastery:
So i'll start with 95% mana
1+ ((16) x.015 x .95)= 1.228
or 22.8% Extra damage (ED) @ 95% mana
OK i'll break it down to 50% mana
90%= 21.6% ED
85%= 20.4% ED
80%= 19.2% ED
75%= 18% ED
70%= 16.8% ED
65%= 15.6% ED
60%= 14.4% ED
55%= 13.2%ED
50%= 12%ED
Remember this is with 16 points to mastery.
Now for the Duh comment. Seeings how we obvisously get the most +% to damage at 90%+ mana and we need four stacks, We obviously have our greatest potential right after we cast mana gem to get us back to 100%mana.
Considering our conserve phase is suppose to keep us around 90% mana, we now know (without the stack bonus being accounted for) that mastery will give us an added 21% damage. I guess that answers my question on the benefits of mastery.
Ok after doing the math, its still unclear whether more haste or mastery would benefit the mage. I'm going to say it is going to depend on each mage inparticular. We still have to remember that mage armor has a defined tick when regenerating mana.
I know personally that starting my stacks the cast time is 1.59 and with 4 stack my AB cast time lowers to 1.27 cast time. Thats with 12.92 haste on the raid dummy, so no haste buffs or anything you would get in a raid group. With time warp active, starting the stacks has a 1.23 cast time and at 4 stacks its .098 sec cast time.
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xavierpjg
wow where the hell did that come from? Ok what spec are we talking about here? I'm guessing since you talking about a mastery trinket your talking about arcane. If you are i cannot see that trinket being very beneficial except for the + int. The buff from it only lasts 10 sec and you would have to get the full 10 stacks (420 mastery) for it to really make a difference.
I wasn't into fire when the latest patch came out. Did they do something different to the fire mastery. Cause this trinket seems like it would be very beneficial with fire with all of the dots it has. Imo, i realized everything for fire has a longer cast time than arcane which is probably why is so important for fire. Looking at this trinket (i realize its a completely off the wall idea and dumb to assume from one item) it makes me think that blizzard is trying to do something with the mastery of fire. Arcane has no dots. And although with that glyph it could work for Ice mages, quite frankly the ice mastery sucks.
Mastery: Icicles
. You can't freeze bosses. Might be better if deepfreeze worked on them instead of just hitting for alot.
So i would but my best bet on that being geared towards fire. All the 378 vp gear seems to be more for fire anyways so..............
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xavierpjg
Nvm i reread the trinket. I was thinking it would stack everytime you would cast the ffb.(place a dot) But u would gain a stack every time the dot ticks.
Having reread it. You could possibly just use ffb instead of Arcane Barrage to end the stack chain every other time. This would keep the stacks rolling quite easily. And not much of your arc damage is pointed towards arcane missles.
Just throw your jeweled serpent in your backpack and test it out.
fiqure once u get it rolling. ab cast is roughly 1.5sec. arcane missles take 3 sec sooo.
(Rough Estimate)
6sec for 4 ab stack +3 sec arc miss+6 sec for stack + 3sec arc miss is 18sec. Yeah just cast FFB at the end of the 2nd stack to keep it rolling.
Before trying though how much mastery rating is equal to one point of mastery?
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greywolfsage
Before trying though how much mastery rating is equal to one point of mastery?
179.28
rating
Or 2.34 points.
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138583
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xavierpjg
Thats y i said roughly 1.5. However if your AB stack starts with a cast time of 1.2 your alot better geared than i. Either that or you got the extra haste from fire still. And it wouldn't take 20 yrs. just reglyph and run a ZA/Zg or 2. Or u can run a Bot quick clear. Bot may take 1.5 hrs now.
I'd do it but 1) i don't have the trink yet and 2) I not sure when my guild is gonna be able to down Baleroc.
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xavierpjg
nvm i'll test it when i get it.
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