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ExDementia
Did you just start your post with "anyway"?
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Azazel
I think it should be the individual's choice to go to college.
Post by
Adamsm
Do you believe a college degree is becoming devalued?Nope.
Also, Simpson's did it.
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Patty
The people who aren't going to be knee deep in #$%^ to try and pay for it.
So practically nobody applying for University in the UK to start in 2012 onwards (yes, me *sigh*) without at least an upper-middle class income and most likely raised by two parents.
To non-Brits; the government has decided to increase the tuition fees from a maximum of around £3,400 a year to up to £9,000 a year, in "exceptional" circumstances. Exceptional is naturally about three quarters of all universities in the UK (unless you're Welsh, or Scottish... and I'm not sure on Northern Ireland). It's estimated that medicine students will face debts of at least £70,000 as far as I recall after leaving university, and a general degree would be at the very, very least £30,000, or around $42,000.
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gnomerdon
For professional jobs, most firms will prefer a person to have a BA degree. The most useful skill they look for is experience but having a degree sugar coats it a little bit.
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MrSCH
Who should go to college?
The people who aren't going to be knee deep in #$%^ to try and pay for it.
Or anyone
who wants to.
Post by
Heckler
In my experience, today's economy presents two options for people graduating high school and looking at their future.
a) Go to college and stay in college until the economy gets better and you'll actually get a job with the degree you got, because you'll still have no experience either way
b) Skip college and go straight into work and work your way up the way most of our grandparents did - by experience with little to no formal education.
You could also (c) join the military, thus allowing you to pay for college on your own in a few years, as well as giving you a taste of public service that you might enjoy and do until you retire. Of course, you might have to go kill people because you're told to.
Also, (b) is not as feasible now as it was during our grandparents time, when the country had a much stronger manufacturing base, and was a net exporter of goods. Service economies don't tend to build strong middle classes.
Post by
variable303
Despite much of the current rhetoric questioning the value of college, I'm still a firm believer that it's solid route to go for most high school graduates. There are some arguments against college that are valid, and I agree that for some young adults, entrepreneurship or trade skill apprentice programs might be more fitting. For most of us though, there are numerous less tangible benefits associated with the college experience.
First, college is a place where many hone their social skills. Social dynamics in college (at least in my opinion) differs greatly from high school, and because so I feel that it's a more conducive environment to grow as a human being. Along these same lines, it's a place where you'll likely build lifelong friendships. Moreover, it's a place where young people can begin building their network, which can have a huge impact on future job opportunities. After all, it's common knowledge that one of the best ways to get a job is to know someone. In fact, it's often people's acquaintances that lead to the most opportunity. (Google: 'strength of weak ties')
College also tends to improve skills like critical thinking, and can help you be a more well-rounded individual. You're exposed to ideas you wouldn't normally be exposed to, and you meet a wide variety of people with opinions that often run contrary to your beliefs. True, you can just read books and have political arguments on an internet forum, but it's just not the same. In short, I believe that you gain perspective in college. It's not only about learning facts, but also about learning how to think, and how to work with others.
Of course, there's also the fact that just having a degree opens doors that would otherwise be closed. Even a cursory glance at job listings will show that having a degree is a common prerequisite. Unless you're dead set on starting your own business, having that piece of paper will almost certainly be beneficial.
Lastly, it's fun part of life that many people look back to with fondness. You make friends, find people with similar interests, find new interests, and who knows... maybe you'll find your future husband/wife.
TL;DR: College can help you grow socially and mentally, can help you build a strong network that may be helpful in finding a job, and for many of us it's a fun rite of passage.
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Heckler
South Carolina is a good example of the problem in my opinion. Boeing recently announced they would move a lot of their manufacturing there, and while that's better than Overseas, the reason was because of the Union in Washington state. The country is in a race to the bottom, and in this specific case, South Carolina is winning. Plenty of jobs at Boeing, but are they the type that someone can graduate high school, work for 40-50 years while supporting a family, and retire in comfort? Without a union to give him some bargaining power, probably not -- at least not at the levels of our grandparents.
But even so, it's much better than shipping them overseas, so I'm not coming down on Boeing or South Carolina too harshly. Just trying to clarify the comparison to 'our grandparents' -- that age is lost to us.
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Post by
pezz
The people who aren't going to be knee deep in #$%^ to try and pay for it.
So practically nobody applying for University in the UK to start in 2012 onwards (yes, me *sigh*) without at least an upper-middle class income and most likely raised by two parents.
To non-Brits; the government has decided to increase the tuition fees from a maximum of around £3,400 a year to up to £9,000 a year, in "exceptional" circumstances. Exceptional is naturally about three quarters of all universities in the UK (unless you're Welsh, or Scottish... and I'm not sure on Northern Ireland). It's estimated that medicine students will face debts of at least £70,000 as far as I recall after leaving university, and a general degree would be at the very, very least £30,000, or around $42,000.
I pay more than 9000 quid for
half
a year at my quite-good-but-not-fantastic U.S. college.
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