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Post by
asakawa
If people disagree with you then that is their prerogative and making things personal only serves to weaken your point.
Where have I ever said that people shouldn't disagree with me. Please, an example.
I never suggested that you said people shouldn't disagree with you. To clarify my point, I'm saying that you're reacting badly to comments that disagree with your opinion.
Now, if you think that those comments are breaking the rules themselves (being rude/vulgar, derailing or wandering off topic) then you should report those posts and let a moderator deal with them. There's no need for you to call people trolls or flamers or get involved in any of that sort of thing.
As I say, it weakens your initial point.
Post by
Gnub
And Gnub, or any other moderator who passes by, if you lock this thread you simply reward Adamsm.
It's not like we only penalize whoever made a topic. Let's keep it to that, and what I said above - which asakawa seems to be quite good at describing as well. Naturally, it applies to
everyone
- and as such, I'll give it one more chance... but only one. Don't make me regret this, please.(##RESPBREAK##)12##DELIM##Gnub##DELIM##
Post by
235435
This post was from a user who has deleted their account.
Post by
235435
This post was from a user who has deleted their account.
Post by
pelf
To be fair, I post pretty much nothing
but
criticism in this forum and while they ignore or do not respond to half of my threads, they respond to the other half and maybe a quarter result in action. I have never had a single thread of mine locked due to something I wrote. It seems to me that you're overreacting.
The truth of the matter is the same here as it is on the official forums. The people who post and give feedback in this way are more than likely a small percentage of the people who just use this site as a database, the people who don't even have an account or the people who comment, uprate and downrate but have never made a forum post. Entities like Blizzard or Wowhead have to weigh the vehement voices, viciously insisting that they are the
vox populi
against the nameless site hits associated with IP addresses that have never been associated with a voice.
While all of us here wish they would focus more on the forum and the user community sometimes, it is up to them to decide what makes the most sense. There is some truth in what you say, but there is undoubtedly reason behind the cause.
Post by
235435
This post was from a user who has deleted their account.
Post by
Miyari
For what it's worth, our entire team's man hours did not and are not going into Wowhead News; design and coding was mostly all the work of two people, with the rest of the team helping from a critique and testing level. We still have a lot of plans for the site and while I'll agree that we're not close to 'beating out' other sites just yet we're hoping that the quality of content and constantly increasing speed of updates / breaking news (often sooner than these other sites) will gradually start to sway people's devotion. All we can do is keep trying to be the best. :)
But back to your original concern, I'd like to assure you that we definitely aren't pushing aside other features in favor of manhours on ones you believe are not good - the features of concern (such as the Profiler) which you mentioned are the primary work of other developers, whom I can assure you are still actively working on them (as in like, even on this very day).
Post by
Vlad
I for once am more for small community developing a site and keeping it clean rather than expanding, joining networks and adding a lot of ads, features but the more features and manpower the more ads one has to add in order to cope with the expenses and such. Bigger isn't necessarily better. Not saying it's the end of Wowhead but in general I am a bit prejudice to networks and companies growing due to personal experiences. :)
Off-topic, I do agree one shouldn't badmouth others like this, kind of distracts from the real thread and it's not nice. I'd report the person using the report button instead of doing it like this. :(
Post by
Ketho
Posts were deleted in yesterday's blog entry because they were deemed off-topic, though I suspect it was actually because other people began to react unnecessarily (many more than just mine were deleted).
Persecution complex? Stop stalking me and we'll see how it goes.My post also got deleted, but that was probably because I was quoting the deleted posts. I didn't really mind though ..
I was asking/wondering who was the previously developer. Although it's a bit personal question
Post by
Pwntiff
I've had a grand total of 3 threads locked.
Your thread about filtering was locked because while your report came first, a more comprehensive bug report was made before Koper responded to you. Nothing done there except keeping feedback in a single place to make it easier for them to find new issues that might be brought up.
Your thread about a specific user was locked because that should have been handled via feedback email.
Your third lock was discussing moderation in a less than neutral tone.
As far as I can tell those are the three reasons for your three locks. And locks aren't really that big of a deal.
The "recruitment blog post" isn't a recruitment blog post. It's a job opening notice. There's a difference. To the best of my knowledge, the only times posts are routinely deleted are when they are spam bots, grossly against ToS, or otherwise inappropriate. Attempting to pick a bone in a job opening announcement is something I would personally consider "otherwise inappropriate."
If you have an issue with the way something is done, the best way of going about yourself is to calmly state your case in a well constructed argument and include rationale reasons why you think things can be done better and how they can be done better. It doesn't matter where you are or what you're discussing.
Word of warning: I "got a user banned" by playing devil's advocate in his "discussions." He wanted "everyone who agrees with me can stay, everyone else get out" threads, and started taking my rebuttal posts as personal attacks and responded in kind, despite me never addressing anything other than the topic at hand. If you absolutely can't ignore a user's posts, attack their arguments and reason, not them.
Post by
235435
This post was from a user who has deleted their account.
Post by
Pwntiff
It was at you. I don't think I've seen Adamsm launch personal attacks (not saying whether it has or hasn't happened, I just haven't seen it); however, you include in the opening of this thread a sentence calling him a prick.
I went through your topic history and only saw three locks, one of them being:
http://www.wowhead.com/forums&topic=152835/item-filter-defaulting-to-useable-by-death-knight
Post by
Haxzor
Will Hoddie be the third person voted off Premium Island?
Tune in next time folks!(##RESPBREAK##)2700##DELIM##Neutronimity##DELIM##Take a step back and read what you wrote. You just
sneered
at someone in a very offensive way in the Wowhead Feedback forums. Such attitudes and trolling are not allowed; you have been sent a warning.
Post by
235435
This post was from a user who has deleted their account.
Post by
Pwntiff
In which case I'd like you to provide an example to justify the following paragraph:
Word of warning: I "got a user banned" by playing devil's advocate in his "discussions." He wanted "everyone who agrees with me can stay, everyone else get out" threads, and started taking my rebuttal posts as personal attacks and responded in kind, despite me never addressing anything other than the topic at hand. If you absolutely can't ignore a user's posts, attack their arguments and reason, not them.
Surely if you were banned by a moderator doesn't that indicate that you did in fact do something other than address the topic at hand?
I "got a user banned"
As in, "I had a hand in a user becoming banned."
Post by
235435
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Post by
Pwntiff
I think Hax is the first actual troll to this thread...
And I like that you decide to give up after I give the clarification you asked for.
Post by
235435
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Post by
Pwntiff
I think Hax is the first actual troll to this thread...
And I like that you decide to give up after I give the clarification you asked for.
You explained it. I understood. What more did you want?
It bugs me when people apparently ignore something I've said as a direct response. It comes off to me as someone asking a question then immediately talking to someone else without so much as acknowledging the answer.
Post by
Cambo
Hoddie, you certainly are free to provide suggestions and feedback to Wowhead. But please ensure you do so in a friendly and polite manner. Also try to refrain from derailing threads with overly emotive posts.
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