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Resto Shaman, Looking for Help.
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Post by
Elvoran
Heya. So I'm relatively new to Shamans as I only just decided to level one when Cataclysm was imminent. Plus I always wanted to do some flashy Chain Heals. It's the sole spell that inspired me to make one!
Regardless... Now that I'm 85 and been running a couple of Heroics I just don't feel that I'm doing as well as I should.
I even grouped up with a level 82 Holy Paladin; friend of mine. Apparently him doing crit heals for 30k wasn't anything special; it's about what I crit heal for.
Also I fear I've been too slavish in regards to Wowheads suggested items; I've kept stacking Haste over Crit and Mastery yet I'm 'only' at ~10%. Also this has lead me to mix all kinds of items: Cloth, leather and mail. I just don't feel the 5% Intellect bonus is that immense, but I could be wrong.
My stats are:
Intellect: 3395
Spirit: 2267
Haste: 10.28% (1316 Rating)
Crit: 9.85% (254 Rating)
Mastery: 11.79 (697 Rating)
Spell Power: 5117 (Unbuffed)
Could anyone give me some pointers in regards to gear and stats.
So far I feel my mana is somewhat manageable; though I feel it'll improve a ton with more crit rating.
Regards,
Vehemar
(May not be fully updated, written stats are exact as of posting).
Post by
vasher
well, the only think i can answer you on is the mail spec, 5% of 3395 is 169.75 int,
when leveling up ele i didnt see any issues with swappig in cloth or leather, though once i hit heroics i focused on getting full mail asap.
ive decided to resto offspec, up from my enh pvp spec, and from all the lurking here ive done and the talking to shamans in game it seems to me, A our healing toook a hit this xpac, and B your going to want to avoid chain heal and healing surge as they just arnt mana efficiant enough. although ive heard HS will do in a pinch.
the way i hear it we, UE>RT>HW>hw well throwing HR and having healing totem down.
BUT please let me know if ive got this a$$ backwards
edit: the only difference i see in our spec for resto is youve got 2 points in totemic reach and i went 3/3 in acuity.
Post by
Haxzor
the way i hear it we, UE>RT>HW>hw well throwing HR and having healing totem down.
BUT please let me know if ive got this a$$ backwards
Save UE for a GHW, nice to see 50k crits going off on the tank.
I mainly use RT and HW in regs, sometimes I Healing Rain, just because its a new spell
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Post by
Elvoran
get proper enchants + get enchants
dont reforge crit to haste. Only reforge mastery to spirit or mastery to crit/haste
My idea of going with enchants is that I only enchant them once I've got the BiS Pre-raiding, hence I'm only slowly enchanting them up. (Well, BiS according to Wowhead)
Don't reforge crit to haste? I'll stick to reforging Mastery then; although on this as well. Is the same recommended on next patch that ímproves our Mastery?
get a main and offhand instead of a staff
The staff is just a placeholder. I've got an Elementium Stormshield waiting to be used; all I need is a main hand (last drop regrettably got taken by a Shadow Priest).
instead of totemic recall take healing wave glyph.
I've been thinking of throwing away Totemic Reach for Acuity already, so it seems I'm not entirely lost on that one.
However, I've read that Telluric Currents should be pretty effective, does that only really hold true in the raiding environment? I feel like I rarely have time to cast Lightning Bolts.
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Post by
Domh
My idea of going with enchants is that I only enchant them once I've got the BiS Pre-raiding, hence I'm only slowly enchanting them up. (Well, BiS according to Wowhead)
From what I understand, the Wowhead stat presets for gear comparisons are still set mostly to Wrath, and out of date for post 4.0.1 (This information might be old, but I don't think so, given that it seems to completely ignore mastery in weights, usually). I wouldn't use Wowhead alone to choose your "BiS" gear unless you set a custom stat preset for comparisons based off research or someone's theorycraft posts.
Also, if nothing else, some cheap Wrath enchants on lower gear will help you in heroics so you can farm the better gear. You don't need to go all out on enchants, but every bit helps.
Post by
Elvoran
From what I understand, the Wowhead stat presets for gear comparisons are still set mostly to Wrath, and out of date for post 4.0.1 (This information might be old, but I don't think so, given that it seems to completely ignore mastery in weights, usually).
Thanks. I wasn't aware of this, although some classes' Masteries seem to be somewhere at a 1st to 3rd Priority.
Given though the buff to Resto Shamans' Mastery it might be more worthwhile looking into.
Recently; following this post I've been focusing less on Haste and mixed gear and now I'll focus more on getting all my items to Mail and then look a bit more into Crit as that may help me manage mana and performance overall as there are lots of On Crit talents as a Healer.
Just a side note to people who took their time to write: thanks, but I'm aware of the healing priorities. It was just that stats and gear mixup I've screwed up with.
Regards,
Elvoran.
Post by
skribs
From what I can tell, Mastery will be very poor for us even with the change. It affects your direct heals. When I look at World of Logs, I see that a lot of healing is being done by ELW, HR, and Riptide. Your highest HPCT ability, ES, also wouldn't be affected.
Post by
Elvoran
Thing is, my direct heals are within the Top 5 of Healing done (granted though, Riptide is on a 1st place).
With this I doubt I should let go of Mastery completely, but still focus on Crit and Haste by the looks of it.
Post by
skribs
Yes, top 5, but how much are they doing? Are you talking about 5-mans or raids?
Post by
Elvoran
5-Man Heroics so far only.
I'm not going to look into raiding in the near future due to conscription.
Also I'll be doing a couple of Heroics with some friends tonight, I'll keep the Overall healing data for when I'm done.
Post by
MegaVolt
According to EJ mastery is actually surprisingly good.
You should also keep in mind that haste increases HPS but it doesn't influence HPM at all so while your throughput rises so does your mana consumption. While gearing up it is much more beneficial to ignore haste and go for crit and mastery instead since those will increase your HPS and HPM, making you heal more for the same amount of mana.
This also effects our Tidal Waves proc: It gives haste to HW and GHW and crit to HS. This means the HPM of GHW is not changed under TW but the HPM of HS is increased significantly, making HS actually more mana efficient than GHW (with the TW proc active).
So feel free to use HS two times after Riptide if someone needs the healing.
This is what I usually do in HCs:
Keep ES on the tank at all times, keep Riptide on cooldown, cast HS twice after each Riptide if someone needs the healing, only cast Healing Rain when there is heavy group damage and everyone is stacked up, pretty much ignore CH unlesss HR is cast already, everyone is still stacked up and there is still a lot of group damage and if none of the above is true and someone is missing some health just spam HW. I rarely ever use GHW, only when the tank needs lots of healing even after I used my two efficient HS after Riptide (and even then using one CH and two more HS might be better, at least if there are melee near the tank that benefit from the CH).
Oh and don't worry too much about gear. Yes, enchants help a bit but seriously .. 20 int more or less won't make or break your run. It's way more important to have a good tank and a group that handles CC well, then you'll be fine even in unenchanted and ungemmed ilvl 333 gear.
Post by
Elvoran
Skribs:
The only thing I got to capture one run (had to reset after Throne of the Tides as the Ozumat fight screwed it a bit over). Regardless;
here it is
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According to EJ mastery is actually surprisingly good.
I actually didn't see that coming, considering how just about everyone say that Mastery is a bad/horrible stat for Resto Shamans.
Just for persuations sake, do you have any numbers on that?
You should also keep in mind that haste increases HPS but it doesn't influence HPM at all so while your throughput rises so does your mana consumption. While gearing up it is much more beneficial to ignore haste and go for crit and mastery instead since those will increase your HPS and HPM, making you heal more for the same amount of mana.
I had the same idea. After reducing Haste and increasing Crit earlier I did notice my mana regen was even easier to manage.
Usually though I group up with 1-3 people in Heroics; making HR pretty easy to manage (as we're always communicating via Skype). Again I always throw RT up unless everyone is at full health.
I didn't know about HS outperforming GHW, although I do use it when people are spread out, due to the additional healing from Ancestral Awakening.
Regarding my gear though, it was more of a concern regarding me staying in mixed gear or going for all Mail. Usually I didn't think much of a 5% Intellect increase, but thinking about it, an increase of 180 Intellect is pretty major.
Thanks for your responses.
Regards,
Elvoran.
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