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Paladin Nerfed in Cata?
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Post by
SnowDemonz
I think Paladin gota be one of the weakest PvPer now that cata came out. I can't seem to kill like how i use to. They seem so much slower in pvp and they get intrupt stun or fear like crazy. So i was just wondering if u guys think pally got alot weaker in cata or is it just me.
But i do believe that pally is the best heal and tank rite now for dungeon.
Post by
Quest
Ret needs better abilities against fear (i mean come on), Id say.
Also, Flash of Light needs to be added to Holy Power abilities.
As it is right now, rogues get a better PvP heal than we do, as it melds with their other class abilities well. WoG doesnt cut it unless we get lucky with a EG proc.
If your healing done for that 1.5 seconds doesnt exceed incoming damage, you might as well of used TV before you died.
Post by
SnowDemonz
Its just not about gettin fear but how hard it is to kill someone since our attack is so weak i mean i got crit by a mage for 25k, a rogue for around 25k to and a warrior for around 20k and thats just bull@#$%. i haven't seen a pally hittin crits like that at all. Plus we only have 2 stun and 1 of them is like 1 min cool down and the other one is just for cc control. Beside that we gota nothin to slow down any other player attack. i mean we got move to slow them down in moving around but its barely any help if all all and all the other class got something to slow u down freeze u or just make ur move recharge really slow which is fckin annoyin as hell. Like i said pally only has burst which is like 1 kill n that about it.
Post by
Tritoch
Find the squishiest member of the opposing team, pop trinket/AW/HoJ and pray they don't have an escape mechanism off CD.
Then lurk around until stuff refreshes.
Post by
Quest
Its just not about gettin fear but how hard it is to kill someone since our attack is so weak i mean i got crit by a mage for 25k, a rogue for around 25k to and a warrior for around 20k and thats just bull@#$%. i haven't seen a pally hittin crits like that at all. Plus we only have 2 stun and 1 of them is like 1 min cool down and the other one is just for cc control. Beside that we gota nothin to slow down any other player attack. i mean we got move to slow them down in moving around but its barely any help if all all and all the other class got something to slow u down freeze u or just make ur move recharge really slow which is fckin annoyin as hell. Like i said pally only has burst which is like 1 kill n that about it.
The thing with ret right now, is fresh 85s do less DPS than 80s in the same gear. That is BROKEN. And it goes for several other classes im sure.
However ret scales very well with gear (str mainly). But thats not much consolation when one is trying to grind pvp gear. 25k hits like youre saying do come at around 320-330 ilvl for us. I often have 17k exo
h
its
. We are as busrty as we were in 1.xx, but it does seem to smooth out as your gear improves. My TV crits regularly do 25k, but as people stack the resil, they (and you) will be getting crit for a lot less.
Ret gear scaling will hopefully improve with the Mastery change,
I think the main concern is battle healing
.
Post by
atomicwolf22
Also, Flash of Light needs to be added to Holy Power abilities.
lol
Your just on a roll with your trolling tonight also. I think the mods will have something special for you.
I agree Quest there is alot of problems with pvp healing for rets. I have seen alot of posting with people being not so happy with the very small WoG heal. I see about a 12k heal. With people in pvp gear that have a ave health pool of around 120k or so thats a joke. I can deal with the fears.
The low damage that people have also been taking about is bad for now but will get better with gear. Honestly do people at 85 expect to have the best gear just handed to them?
Post by
Flonnette
I am not an expert on PVP but before Patch 4.0, were Ret Paladins really using Flash of Light in PVP? Why wasn't it a problem back then?
Whether or not it is good thing or not, Blizzard has decided to make healing and dispelling in general to be slower and more expensive. Suggesting Ret Paladins need another instant heal to be competitive seems to suggest something else is wrong instead.
Post by
Xiamaru
Also, Flash of Light needs to be added to Holy Power abilities.
lol
Your just on a roll with your trolling tonight also. I think the mods will have something special for you.
Pardon? I would have posted that reply if he hadn't.
You assume a healing spell is meant for PvP-rets, when it's not. Flash of Light is a quick heal HEALERS can use, if thinks are looking ugly. That, and the added utility for leveling when you kill stuff.
Putting Flash of Light on the Holy Power mechanism, would ruin the spell. The only reason you see it as trolling, is because you have no idea what the purpose of the spell really is.
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Post by
JamieK
Paladin buffed in 4.0.6
I am more concerned with their survivability in solo-pve, since every single fight i nearly die due to taking too much damage, while my feral druid barely takes any damage at all from the same mobs....its weird.
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Post by
prater452
I have a ret pally ha sthe best gear available from AH plus socket gems, encants, and still getting kicked out of dungens for low DPS. pvp all i do is run around and die can't heal fast enough, and DPS so low other player take me out so fast its scary I get honor points for being in the battle and thats it.
any suggestions would be great.
thanks
Post by
Raleandris
I have a ret pally ha sthe best gear available from AH plus socket gems, encants, and still getting kicked out of dungens for low DPS. pvp all i do is run around and die can't heal fast enough, and DPS so low other player take me out so fast its scary I get honor points for being in the battle and thats it.
any suggestions would be great.
thanks
Learn to play.
Without any more information that's about the best I can give you.
Post by
livlivliv
Prot, baby, prot!
0/31/10 talents, seriously it works. Get yourself the blooded pyrium from the AH, get into BGs and Arena and just go wild!
I'm slowly building the Epic set... and loving every minute!
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