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Post by
Fingulfin
hellfire damage far outpaces healing done from fel armor.
Post by
USMCDiablo
You're not gonna come close to dying from channeling hellfire.
Post by
Interest
I actually LIKE the hellfire damage self thing. The creative uses to which experienced Warlocks can put to use with it are utterly amazing.
Need to deny a dura hit because the group is wiping? Hellfire yourself to death.
Wanna cheat on Twin Valks and have the Light Essence? Hellfire yourself up to 99 stacks before the fight begins (fixed lol)
Hellfire yourself through the Kara gates if you don't have the key.
The list goes on.
Now what would be cool was if there was a toggle for Hellfire to damage self and not damage self. But I might be wishing for too much.
You're not gonna come close to dying from channeling hellfire.
Not in the next patch it won't. Fel Armor will only heal you from single target damage, but Hellfire is aoe (you MIGHT be able to heal yourself from the self-damage part, but that's a big might). It could be a potential strain on healers.
Post by
Fingulfin
I just said that hellfire > fel armor... and then you say "In next patch it won't be hellfire > fel armor, it will be hellfire > fel armor"
lolwut?
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Post by
Interest
I just said that hellfire > fel armor... and then you say "In next patch it won't be hellfire > fel armor, it will be hellfire > fel armor"
lolwut?
I quoted the wrong post like an idiot. Sorry about that.
Post by
DraconisAerius
Does the hellfire damage scale with SP?
Yes. Here are the spell-power co-efficents that simcraft uses to calculate how much damage Hellfire does as of 4.0.3a.
Hellfire
(Enemy Damage) = 0.143
Hellfire
(Self Damage) = 0.095
As you can see above, Hellfire's damage to the caster scales
less
than the damage to your enemies. If you want to know about any other spells, check out the thread on it
here
.
Post by
DraconisAerius
Fel Armor has been redesigned. It now surrounds the caster with fel energy, increasing spell power and causing the warlock to be healed for 3% of any single-target spell damage he or she deals.
Seeing as shadowpriests get 6%+3% for party members this seems very silly ^_^ The demonic ageis talent brings it up to 6% just like shadowpriests but we don't get the party benefits...
Talented it appears to be pretty even with the fel armor regen, but without the talent points it's lackluster to the live version. Better than mana I suppose ^_^
Is that still going into the 4.0.6 patch notes? Fingulfin hasn't put it into the updated first post.
Post by
Fingulfin
I've really stopped updating the first post as blizzards notes are all over the place.
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Post by
Fingulfin
Demonology
Fel Armor
now causes you to be healed for 3% of any single-target spell damage you deal.
Demonic Aegis
now increases the amount of health returned by Fel Armor by 50/100% (instead of mana, from the old version of Fel Armor)
Mana Feed
no longer affects Drain Mana (Drain Mana is removed in 4.0.6)
Demonic Empowerment (Felguard)
now also removes fear.
Destruction
Improved Soul Fire
no longer has a 6 sec cooldown.
Post by
Fingulfin
Mostly tooltip fixes it seems. Demonic Empowerement removing fear is so that the felguard can get free of a paladin's turn evil
(Source)
.
Improved Soul Fire CD removal is a good thing. Empowered Imp and soul burn that don't happen to coincide with times you need to refresh the buff will now, you know, refresh the buff.
Post by
LookOut
Fel Armor change looks awesome. It might make destro a little more pvp viable again, getting a heal off every spell.
Or maybe affli benefits enough from it to use it in pvp as well. Haunt and sbolt I reckon? Just getting the hang of it again, wondering if I should do armor-switching like in wotlk or not ...
Post by
Fingulfin
Fel Armor changes are actually really bad. The only way to equal the amount of healing you get now is to pull 17k sustained DPS.
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Post by
DraconisAerius
Mostly tooltip fixes it seems. Demonic Empowerement removing fear is so that the felguard can get free of a paladin's turn evil
(Source)
.
Improved Soul Fire CD removal is a good thing. Empowered Imp and soul burn that don't happen to coincide with times you need to refresh the buff will now, you know, refresh the buff.
Been thinking about this damn soul fire thing, and I keep coming back to one thing. It has no cd, so it can be up full time, so why in the f*** did they make the duration so damn short? It's the most mind bogglingly stupid thing I've ever seen blizz do.Basically, because of the Health Pool Inflation compared to DPS you just can't match a solid 4000 HP/5 in PvP. PvE its a buff for end-tier raiders and a nerf for everywhere else.
And this Fel Armor thing... It's got the potential to be a problem in the future I think, depending on how int/spell power/stam scale in the next tier.
Post by
asakawa
they must want destro locks to be casting soul fire more often than the soulburn cooldown.
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