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When did Wowhead General become such a horrible forum?
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Post by
pezz
You can also get, essentially, a "tired poster" effect. A poster who has been on a forum for long enough that they've seen a thread multiple times in the past but to a new poster these threads are so old to be irrelevant. Que the back and forth between the "nice necro" and "a thread like this already exists" groups.
Points aside just a personal opinion, don't bash the mods for a problem that stems from the community. Rules could probably be modified but any changes won't do much if the community doesn't mature.
I'd like to point out that this argument started happening far less often once the forum rules were modified to clarify what to do in this situation.
Post by
lonewarrior
WoWhead general is the Water cooler conversation equivalent . It's where we shoot the breeze about whatever the general topic of the day is. Two people talking about the same subject becomes 3 and so on. The more interesting the subject the more people involved, the louder the conversation..until the boss comes around(or in the case the moderator) and shoos everyone away. I don't see a reason to make anymore out of it.
I don't see the horrible forum the OP is talking about because I don't look for it. Its just talk..some relevant..some not..some sarcastic and some just plain dumb.
I agree that people should post what they want..but once they do...they should weather whatever comments come their way. Leave it to the moderators to handle anything or anybody going beyond set guidelines. If someone threads about an experience they had playing WoW and somebody posts a dopey comment, either respond back or report him to the moderators and move on. People who make such comments are shooting themselves in the foot anyway since they are helping to bump the thread they think useless back to the top instead of letting it die.
Finally, only the moderators can decide what can and can't be posted. I trust in them or I leave Wowhead. Saying members can dictate or intimidate thread contents or are abusive demi-gods, is just a personal weakness. Sorry if that last line seemed abrupt.
I'm an ole time NYer maybe my approach is a little different from other people and places....you don't like my thread "screw you"...want to post something dumb in it "screw you". Want to tell me your ideas or share your experience "happy to listen"...want to share polite conversation/debate "happy to oblige" I take it as it comes and give it back in kind.
A little backbone please.
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331902
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Post by
YesterdaysHero
Normal person + Anonymity + Audience = Total F@ckwad.
It's the law of the internet.
/thread
Post by
xaratherus
That is not true at all, most of the posts on any forum are a direct reply to another post, which is why I can be fairly certain my reply will be effectively communicated to you, or anyone else I reply to irregardless of whether I am deemed abrasive or not.
That's a wholly false assumption. In the case of some folks on this forum, if I see their name and see that they are responding to me, depending on the topic in question and based on past behavior, I do not read their answer; I continue to read the thread, but I will skip that person's posts in it.
In other words, in regards to a lack of an 'ignore user' function on the forums, I rely on my own willpower (which I admit is sometimes fallible), and I ignore the people whose posts tend to annoy me, especially if it's in response to something that I've said. The person has lost part of their audience due to poor past behavior - and that renders them an ineffective communicator, because at that point no one is listening.
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Post by
Kalisha
I think that Wowhead would be best served by introducing a rule that EJ has had for a while: playing moderator, making predictions about threads being locked, or accusing other posters of infractions, is itself actionable, as are useless posts that consist only of memes or links to meme images/videos/rickrolls etc.
I
really
like this idea. (Assuming of course that we can lump in any posts that are an outright attack on the poster as opposed to the message contained in their post.)
I remember the Wowhead forums being a much friendlier place when I began to frequent them, and I believe this would go a long way towards bringing some of that friendliness back.
When the first three replies to a post are "in before lock" or "this has been posted before" followed up by a long discussion on "why would this be locked?" and some drivel involving another's post count or perceived troll-ish behavior... well it doesn't exactly give the best atmosphere, does it? It doesn't add anything constructive to the post or community as a whole.
In fact it does the opposite - it adds to the bitterness that some people already seem to be carrying around (which several posts in this thread declaring people's dislike of particular posters illustrate) and drives away potential new members of the community that don't want to be involved in the negativity.
Of course I don't think it would fix all of our problems, but I think it would
help
.
Post by
Meggie
Oh sure, in the beginning there was lots of conversation and discussion. But in the end everything what can be said had been said. There was nothing left to speak about. And so we entered the dark age.
-- Q
Post by
bigheaded
I personally think wowhead should implement a forum rating system identical to the item/quest comment sections. I am almost certain that the best and most informative comments within a post will come through to the forefront of each thread.
The wowhead community is intelligent enough to combat the haters who would seek to destroy someones post rating, imo.
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Post by
xaratherus
Those good people at runesofmagic.com are not going to pay to advertise to a forum consisting of 100 people.
For some reason this reminded me of a joke I heard once:
When is the Rapture going to happen?
It already did; it's just that nobody missed the one guy that disappeared.
Post by
bigheaded
I think this is a horrible idea because it would encourage groupthink.
The only reason Blizzard uses a forum rating system on their own forums is so they can quietly manipulate the numbers. On the old forums, moderator "de-bumps" were a common way to subvert discussion of a subject Blizzard felt touchy about, without flatly deleting or locking the thread.
Blizzard basically sees their forums as a form of advertising or PR, and that's why their relevance has declined and declined into oblivion over the years.
There's no reputable forum that does this, because rating forum posts based on the lowest common denominator is, in effect, tyranny of the majority, a shill for demagoguery. Every man has the right to have his words heard...regardless of how popular or unpopular they may be. A post's value should be its content, not its appeal to individual biases.
Oh sure, in the beginning there was lots of conversation and discussion. But in the end everything what can be said had been said. There was nothing left to speak about. And so we entered the dark age.
And after a while, we realized we were wrong. There was, in fact, quite a bit more to be said.
And then we entered the Renaissance.
I didn't say this method would delete/remove a posting. I agree that everyone should have an equal opportunity to post and be heard. This method would simply minimize down rated posts which in turn could be viewed/maximized if the viewer wishes.
In turn this system could implement a notification system where a mod is notified of a posting/thread that receives an x amount of down rates. The moderator can then decided if the post itself should be removed or the thread locked.
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Adamsm
My point is, the forcefulness you perceive is to some extent deliberate, and the goal is not to provoke or insult, it is to communicate. It is part of my style, and that style definitely has its merits.Right....and the fact that you also look down on the entire forum community as beneath you has nothing at all to do with it.....Also, as you say nothing with massive words, no one really pays attention to you Aestu, beyond to openly mock and ridicule you.
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