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Retribution and Cataclysm Discussion Thread 4.0.1+
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Bruunpala
Atm, I haven't tryed a full mastery setup reforge, might well try this tonight. But on EJ most talk is about how weak the Hand of Light (That's what our Mastery is called) is. Mostly because, it takes so much rating to increase the % chance to proc a Hand of Light, and the haste stacking is a sure way to launch a TV every 6-9 seconds.
But I will try this, a full mastery reforge, and post a pic in this thread of how it looks and how my dps is affected.
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Bruunpala
Atm I am gemming Str in red sockets and Str/Haste in yellow sockets, I do however use a +20 haste gem in my libram, since it doesnt have a socket bonus, and I use the +40 haste food. Other than that It is all reforging and the Herkuml War Token.
The reason I got the +20 Haste gem was solely to get myself above since I was so close allready, so now I just cant wait for the proper spell queue to get implemented.
Again I can only advise against stacking mastey for now, haven't had time to try the full mastery reforge yet. And may not have time to do it before I leave for vacation in 8 hours.
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Anarchy
As for PvP, I'm finding myself kited a lot more often and word of glory is really bad for healing.
Elemental shaman walked all over me, can't even dispel his slows without HoF.
What can I do?
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Bruunpala
Oh, and RE: Mastery, I think I was right. Looking at the mage T11 set as a reference, you can expect to get 150-200+ mastery rating on a single piece of gear, without reforging or gemming. That's almost more on a single item than we could scrape up with reforging today, it's meant to be an expensive stat.
I was testing the mastery setup, and i was able to reach 19% proc chance, however this costed alot of the item budget as you state, and yea, imo we should keep on with the haste cap and then crit.
Btw remember that there is new conversion values at 85 =)
As for PvP, I'm finding myself kited a lot more often and word of glory is really bad for healing.
Elemental shaman walked all over me, can't even dispel his slows without HoF.
What can I do?
I haven't had time to do much PvP on my paladin, but I would say, use Repentance, Hammer of Justice (Glyphed) and your own judgement to get close to people. As for the kiting, get a pvp trinket and use HoF more. Remember you can kill the shamans Earthbind Totems, so it wont cast it again. And make sure you got 2/2 in Guardians Favor for the increased duration on HoF.
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Anarchy
Anyone else feel like ret is terrible in pvp now?
I've never been so bad at it, almost every class is walking over me.
Post by
pezz
Part of the issue with mastery is that it's a surprisingly small DPS increase.
Yes, it's a free TV (very rarely), but it's not a free TV's worth of DPS. It's a free TV's worth of DPS minus whatever else you were going to do with that GCD anyway. It pushes back everything else you're planning on doing each time you use the Mastery.
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Wreaker06
Edit: You may also like to know that glyph of seal of truth reduces the mana cost by 50% and no longer grants 10 expertise.
there are 2 different glyphs of trueth, the prime glyph still grants 10 expertise
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