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kemppy
i have normal melee hit, and my death coils never miss, so i dk i might just be lucky, and i think no more duel weild tanks suck, i liked to DW tank it was easy, but i guess i stopped tanking a while ago so....also what about blood PvP like i am, is that still possible
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kemppy
before people think i am necroing, i am not, i am just putting a new build i just went through, and seeing as it is getting closser to cata i think the it is needed to go through
http://cata.wowhead.com/talent#jchGdhbfkGZZbGc
it is a DK tanking spec what is wrong what can be inproved
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Post by
Atik
Just my two copper;
I see everyone is skipping the Strang CD reduction talent.
As a DK, if Grip is on CD having two casters is a pull is a nightmare for me. I almost think for raid-tanking, it may be more valuable than abomination's might since an off-tank or someone could bring that. Strangulate just seems useful enough for those two points.
And DW tanking is completely gone from the mainstream? That is kinda depressing. It was the sole reason I preferred Frost tanking.
Post by
DraconisAerius
Something I'm not clear on atm, have bloodworms changed so much to actually be viable in cata now? Cause right now there are no blood builds I've seen with them in.
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Post by
woohaa
DW blood tanking is "possible" but will not be all that great in the threat department. GC posted awhile back that if you want to DW tank in blood you will be able to. It just won't be the best way to tank, since most abilities will lean towards 2handers.
Honestly i don't see NoCS and ToT being added to the passives, since DW and 2hand is going to be viable for Frost those 2 talents won't be needed for 2hand and hence will switch up the playstyle and spec for 2hand and DW.
Post by
DraconisAerius
I think part of the way that dw tanking is still viable right now is there isn't a 2hand weapon talent in blood like there is on live. But it's still not as good as 2hand.
Post by
kemppy
ok i have a question, this is aimed at beta teasters, is DW unholy workable, or not worth looking into makinf a build for
Post by
apocalypsa
Right now it can be very powerful but it isnt as it gets GCD capped. Otherways it would be by far the best spec. But blizzard will nerf it, fosho. They dont like good ideas that dont come from them.
Post by
woohaa
yeah GC already stated that DW unholy will not be viable in Cata. So even though it's working now in beta, there's not much doubt that it'll get nerfed.
Post by
Zokudu
I'm kind of sad with no BCB in the blood builds. I love that talent
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Post by
woohaa
Umm well i'm not in beta but i can answer your question for you. Atm frost is alittle GCD capped. Meaning you generate more resources then you can use. The extra RP that MotFW (2hand talent) generates is basically useless atm because you can't use up the resources fast enough to make use of the extra RP.
However, beta is beta so numbers still need to be tweaked. I'm pretty certain it'll be fixed before cata ships.
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woohaa
Well i don't see it not being viable, but i don't see it being the best spec either. We'll have to wait and see what they change to ensure it's a viable and competitive spec when cata launches.
I'm hoping they'll fix the scaling issues between the 2 specs. From what i can tell DW frost will scale better in the end, haste is usually always the best scaling secondary stat and DW scales best with haste. They made MotFW in response to that unfortunatly with RE, MotFW and faster rune regeneration we may see 2hand Frost GCD capping at higher tiers of gear unless they do something to prevent it from happening.
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