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The news post on the front page of the site recommends ctrl + f5, whatever that does.
It hard refreshes the page.
Post by
Dragonzero
hmm interest... I do love be Tankadin for 5 years and 1 year Protribution.
{H.teir= Holy tree}
{P.teir= Prot tree}
{R.teir= Ret tree}
So for Tank raiding
P.teir 1= Toughness (yea need it), Seals of the Pure (maybe just 2 pts then come back to filled), IMP HoJ (nah)
P.teir 2= JotJ (DP has remove but i come back), Sanctuary (yea just 2 pts then come back to filled), Guardian's Favor (sound pvp to me), *new* Sacred Oath (yea need it)
P.teir 3= Spiritual Attunement (hmm just 1 then come back to filled), Divine Sacrifice (yea need it to reach to get DP finish cd from teir 5), IMP Exo (maybe just come back), IMP Devo Aura (yea need it)
P.teir 4= *new* Hallowed Ground (interest and yea need it), Vindication (hmm i doubt it and come back later), Shield of the Templar (maybe just come back later or it is pvp)
so fill out the come back at teir 1 (SotP), 2 (Sanc) and 3 (maybe SA)
P.teir 5= Ardent Defender (oh yea alway), Divine Guardian (yea need DP cd because no refresh dp by JotJ), Holy Shield (fill 2 then come back to filled)
P.teir 6= Sacred Duty (oh yea more Stam), *new* IMP CS (why is it there? oh well it is spammable)
P.teir 7= HotR (yea need it)
31 pts so far then get into Ret tree
R.teir 1= IMP Judgement (sure or don't have to), Heart of the Crusader (hmm maybe just come back or not need), Crusade (ah there is HotR increase)
R.teir 2= Eye for an Eye (nah), Righteous Veneance (ah there is HotR), Pursuit of Justice (dunno)
now back to protect tree to fill 2 pts left but it pop my mind and that we have DP cd then can remove 1 pt from SA on teir 3
P.teir 5= HS (filled 3 and 1 more pt left)
P.teir 3= Exo (fill 1) and SA (remove 1 pt)
Still have 1 pt left, hmm something is bother me need JotJ or Exo and I feel Exo should be in pvp then I go to fill JotJ
P.teir 2= JotJ (fill 1 then remove Exo 1 pt from teir3 and then onto JotJ to be 2)
Done
I think, it is really AoE Tankadin that use SoC (sotp) then HotR because of 3 mobs (trashs) will get SoC debuff with Righteous Vengeance 2nd debuff for DoT and use AoE Cons that u get more gaining threat.
So for boss vs tankadin can now use JotJ, spammable CS and Cons longer.
Post by
Rouen
FYI
There is no Divine Illumination. Divine Favor is 100% chance to crit on your next heal with a 1 min cooldown.
Source
http://blue.mmo-champion.com/t/25968569991/paladin-changes-build-12479/
The talent at the bottom of the Holy Tree will be renamed to something else.
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Post by
Phototropic
Can we not have 2 types of Judgements?
Ret build
, I'd even consider taking a point off of Fanaticism for another point in Judgements of the Pure if we could.
How about dropping Pursuit for 2/2 AoW and then going 2/3 Heart of the Crusader for the extra point in Judgements of the Pure?
Chances that you group/raid with another pala? Fairly high, I'd say... Chances that said pala will have the full 3/3 HotCrusader? And as for the loss of the 15% run speed, well, that's up to you :D
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Phototropic
Sorry double post...
Does anyone get the feeling that Improved Crusader Strike and Sanctity of battle would be better suited in eachother's tree rather than their own?
Prot gets a permanent decrease in cast time Exor but a buff to CS whereas ret gets a
proc
based zero cast and a buff to Exor... I just assumed that, since Blizz said CS was going to be a standard, trainable ability Ret would be the tree to get the buff o_O
Just a thought /confused
Post by
dingbot1
The Art of War proc is almost always up. You just can't use it on a pull like tankadins.
Post by
Flurs
I have heard noone mention anything yet about how holy light has been changed to a 3sec cast. I assume the spellpower coefficient will be raised but im not liking my new "go to heal" being so slow and now with no talents to make it any faster. Getting a 3sec cast down to a decent rate of speed with haste is going to be a huge task :(
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frmorrison
The trees you are seeing are an older set. However the new set isn't ready yet, so they put out the older ones. The trees will change again.
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Post by
Overhaul
I am confused, isn't the talent tree you guys are using capped at lvl 50? So do you not get talents until level 50 or something, making content boring until you get talents?
Isn't cata going to make the lvl cap 85, so wouldn't something like
http://www.wowtal.com/#k=vx2Q7PhEH_1z1.9mn.paladin
be better (My holy PvP build). Or am I wrong and talents are being changed so you only get one talent point every other level or something?
I am guessing I am wrong since the people posting tend to be far more on the ball than I.
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Post by
wtfSNORLAX
I know there have been blue posts saying the Paladin trees are going to change a lot still, and that certain talents are changing for sure. Regardless, I've put together what I think to be the current best Ret spec.
http://www.wowtal.com/#k=gGU9NGqp.9mn.paladin
This build obviously assumes that there is either a Frost DK or a Shaman dropping Windfury Totem. More than one point in Sanctified Retribution is useless with the current talent trees.
I'm not entirely convinced Sanctity of Battle will be a worthwhile talent. Currently, I sit at 66% crit raid buffed and I still sometimes reach Exorcism in my FCFS without AoW proccing(it's rare, but it does happen). Lowering the cooldown on exorcism as well as giving us lower combat ratings in Cata doesn't seem like a very good thing to do. I'd like to see Imp Exorcism make its way over to Ret, and make The Art of War a PVP/utility talent.
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RedWinds
TBH,Im extremely excited for the talent changes coming in cata! As main spec holy,ill actually feel like a real healer with several different heals and an AoE heal(healing hands i believe).It seems,looking at the talents for holy,Judging once the CD is up is going to prove even MORE buffs now(yay!).I dunno about you guys,but I'll be a happier person once cata hits.
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