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191285
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126061
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Post by
Quilan
If they are rude. Be rude too. Fight fire with fire
and explosives with explosives. Big boom, BIG BOOM!
Post by
qwertydood
Have you ever left your house/apartment/basement/box? The whole world is full of people who act differently, often not how you'd like or what you'd consider "rude".
On behalf of the human race, we apologize for not all being perfect human beings who live up to your every standard.
Post by
GravenTerenas
I'm not sure why this post has garnered so much hostility. Saying "I can't stand rude people" should be like saying "i hate people who kick housepets" or "i get annoyed when people throw garbage in my yard"- it's a reasonable statement, and I can't imagine who would disagree. At best, people will disagree on whether or not they are actually being rude. I can't imagine how someone could say "how dare you be annoyed by rudeness"- lol. I...I don't even have a counter argument for that...it's too absurd.
Exactly what I was thinking. Saying that, the negative responses in this thread are likely from people who "resemble that comment" and are taking his general moan too personally.
I totally agree with the OP though; there is really no need for the level of rudeness and outright hostility that you find in randoms these days. I will also consider dropping group if people are being idiots - 3 of my 4 level 80s are dps so mostly I just keep quiet and finish the run, but at least when playing my healer I can vote with my feet and not have to wait 15 minutes for another run.
Post by
Frames
If people are rude to me i just go slower or stop.
Im the Tank you dont go anywhere without me.
Sure i might need heals but if a DPS goes up and tries to "tank" a group of monsters they will drop in a heartbeat. Even with a healer.
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126061
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Post by
Frames
Sure i might need heals
And that's where being a pally tank with icc-25-ish gear's real benefits kick in, you don't. :D
Thats why i said
might
haha :D
Post by
qwertydood
If people are rude to me i just go slower or stop.
Im the Tank you dont go anywhere without me.
Sure i might need heals but if a DPS goes up and tries to "tank" a group of monsters they will drop in a heartbeat. Even with a healer.
Actually, I've had a tank get ^&*!ed off and refuse to go further and a ret pally tanked the rest of the H-PoS run just fine.
Especially for heroic randoms pre-TOC, tanks aren't as important as they like to think they are. As long as the healer has better than Ulduar-level gear and theres a DPS of certain classes (feral druid, DK, ret pally off the top of my head, probably even a warlock or hunter with the right pet setup and aggro management) it can work.
ANYWAYS, to all the people saying "its a reasonable statement, why so much hate", you are missing the point. It's not what he said that is garnering the flaming, its how he's reacting to it. An angry forum post (that I thought was trolling at first) and bashing everyone who responds negatively by acting superior and being arrogant is no way to handle it.
Post by
Atik
Based on all the responses I see here, I can tell this is a game wide issue and not just an isolated incident.
Thanks for proving my point for me each and every one of you. Rudeness and WOW do actually seem to go hand in hand.
BTW I am not the one that determines the spead of an instance run. I will pull as fast and as much as heals can handle. I have NO issues tanking multiple targets and I do know how to manage aggro.
Nice try on the replies though.
Cool story Bro.
No really: I love being a faceless douch to people online. And I'm just glad people like me can get to people like you so easily.
As a consolation prize, I give you 1 interwebz.
BTW: Vote to Kick is there for a reason.
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440695
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Post by
Atik
Sorry you seeing me being arrogant from posting a serious issue I see with the WOW community right now. I think Atik may have hit the nail on the head...
No really: I love being a faceless douch to people online
A lot of people, I think are doing it on purpose. And I did notice a Dramatic increase when the cross realm LFD went into effect. A lot of people figure they won't have to group with those people anymore since they aren't on their server. So why bother being nice.
But it doesn't really matter because the people on this forum who decide what is important and what is not have spoken and anyone who doesn't agree with them is fail.
Have a great day everyone.
Fixed that for you. Also, if it REALLY irks you that much; The best medicen is their own. If a rogue ninja-pulls, leave the mobs on him. If a hunter's pet is growling, let it tank. It is hat simple.
I'm sorry to throw chivilary out the window, but there is no point in being a "bigger man" in these situations. All you get is a headache. No loot, no emblems, no achievements.
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Post by
pezz
An honest question, because I've seen several people proving my point from earlier in the thread.
Let's assume that a DPS pulls before you do not because he's an ass but because a) he sees that you have full health and mana, have not asked for an afk break of any length, and are fully buffed, b) because he knows you have a threat stance and a pulse, so you will pull off him incredibly quickly, and c) he assumes that everyone involved wants to be done as quickly as possible. He, as I said, doesn't see this behavior as rude in anyway.You respond to this behavior, of course, by letting him die and making a sarcastic remark. Because 'that is not how things are done.' Nevermind how much you all outgear the content, that is still not how things are done.
My question is, do you think he'd be justified in making a thread like this? Do you think it's possible that
your
behavior might be construed as rude by the very person you're complaining about? Oh wait, of course not, because you are the eternal and unquestionable arbiter of right, wrong, and sweeping, judgmental statements about an entire demographic you know little about. How silly of me to forget.
In almost every case like this,
you
(the person making this thread) are the one being rude, and you don't realize it. And believe it or not, condescending, passive aggressive posts don't really lead me to believe you're as nice of a guy as you say.
Post by
coolguyry
I won't tolerate people in dungeons/raids wearing PvP gear. I just hate it. So much. It's like if you want to do this, wear the damn, appropiate, frickin' gear! It's not that hard. Probably easier than getting your stupid, honor-chugging, arena-point consuming PvP gear. It's like honestly. Just ran a few damn heroics or dungeons and get the right gear! And you can also buy it too! I mean, come on people! Get a damn clue! You dumbasses... (Please note that I mean this in a satrical and comical manner. But I'm serious. Wear the right gear for the right environment.)
Post by
Atik
I won't tolerate people in dungeons/raids wearing PvP gear. I just hate it. So much. It's like if you want to do this, wear the damn, appropiate, frickin' gear! It's not that hard. Probably easier than getting your stupid, honor-chugging, arena-point consuming PvP gear. It's like honestly. Just ran a few damn heroics or dungeons and get the right gear! And you can also buy it too! I mean, come on people! Get a damn clue! You dumbasses... (Please note that I mean this in a satrical and comical manner. But I'm serious. Wear the right gear for the right environment.)
So, hypothetically, let's say I'm running heroics for emblems in my pvp gear so I can buy dungeon gear...
Would you still yell at me if you encountered me in said heroic?
Post by
coolguyry
... crap... knew this would happen... No. I wouldn't. I just kinda wish PvP gear worked in PvE... kinda like it did in BC. The best gear for dungeons and raids back then was PvP. Some people even ran in it there. But know... it just doesn't work. You can wear PvE gear in PvP, but you can't wear PvP gear in PvE. It just doesn't work that way. I wish that they have some honor gear that was PvE gear for those players was bazoodles of honor points to spend. So it could actually help them out. I'm sorry if I offended you.
Post by
Atik
Yeah, my Shaman and DK have craploads of Honor points that I don't wanna waste on mounts.
Also, I do a lot of city/town raids where PvP gear is a must.
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Post by
Elorivan
My question is, do you think he'd be justified in making a thread like this? Do you think it's possible that
your
behavior might be construed as rude by the very person you're complaining about? Oh wait, of course not, because you are the eternal and unquestionable arbiter of right, wrong, and sweeping, judgmental statements about an entire demographic you know little about. How silly of me to forget.
In almost every case like this,
you
(the person making this thread) are the one being rude, and you don't realize it. And believe it or not, condescending, passive aggressive posts don't really lead me to believe you're as nice of a guy as you say.
QFT
In my experience, relatively few adults have achieved a maturity level above that of most high school students, and attempting to wrap their brains around the idea that they are the problem is nearly impossible, because introspection, pro-activity, and paradigm shifts are all completely foreign concepts to them.
Add the anonymity of the internet to the equation, and it creates the potential for people to act very immaturely. No, I'm not talking about LFD pugs, I'm talking about the op. The problem is that the op considers people pulling off/for him a problem. He looks for reasons why people are doing things wrong, rather than looking for ways he can do better (if people are pulling, it means you're too slow, or can't hold threat, btw). If he genuinely wanted better groups, he'd do something to change himself first.
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