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Post by
Paolo
If you did all of that, your dots would no longer tick. All ticks would happen simultaneously, thereby exploding your target instantly.
Please, only use this against horde.
Also, you made three small (albeit large) mistakes. First, it's called Heroism. I have no idea why you keep calling it bloodlust; this is incorrect.
Second, the haste buffs from PI and Heroism do not stack. You still get the mana reduction, but the haste buff from PI will be wasted.
Third, haste is multiplicative, not additive. Check out all the gory details
here
.
Post by
Nazeka
I have no idea if you're joking Paolo, but the horde's version of Heroism is indeed called Bloodlust.
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Post by
scottmj
Because of this thread, I am seriously considering taking up Engineering and Alchemy on my Troll Disc Priest!
Post by
Aldones
At level 80, haste is worth approximately the same amount as spell power. Depending on your gear itemization, haste will usually be worth 0.95 - 1.05 sp. With that said, to the OP, get rid of BM and put 81 sp on your staff; it is more stable and an overall higher dps rating.
And yes, you want to stack haste over crit with
Reckless Ametrine
in your yellow sockets.
Raiding-wise, the top shadow priests on my server are usually around 1000-1200 haste; myself, I am sadly only at 895. Also, stacking haste on top of haste like that will, if anything, decrease your dps (as opposed to a consistent stream of haste procs) due to diminishing returns unless you are also having a sp or crit increase at the same time.
Oh, and
Potions of Speed
are good for anyone, not just Alchemists.
According to
shadowpriest.com
, Alchemy would still be the BiS profession for a shadow priest, with tailoring as 2nd BiS. The guide doesn't have the math for either, but using the current pp values, alchemy comes out to 72-81 and tailoring is 65-75. Keep in mind that alchemy will loose 4 additional points if you are an alchemist and a tailor.
Edit: Anyways, your math is wrong. Haste is multiplicative, not cumulative. Also, 32.79 haste rating = 1% haste, not 32. Still, your "99%" haste gives well over a theoretical 100%. I cannot, however, tell you what the hard cap is for dots since they will not all tick simultaneously. It's probably 1s b/w ticks.
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584948
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Post by
Squishalot
Second, the haste buffs from PI and Heroism do not stack. You still get the mana reduction, but the haste buff from PI will be wasted.
Really? Is this a PI specific thing, that it doesn't stack with BL / other >=20% haste buffs, or is it supposed to be a more general thing?
Mages all believe that Icy Veins stacks multiplicatively with Heroism / Bloodlust, so this is a bit of a shock to read.
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Post by
DerrHans
Does not stack with Arcane Power. If Arcane Power is already active, a priest casting Power Infusion will receive an error message "A more powerful spell is already active." If Power Infusion is already active on the mage, activating Arcane Power will override it.
Does not not stack with Bloodlust/Heroism or other haste effects which can be applied to others.
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Squishalot
Second, the haste buffs from PI and Heroism do not stack. You still get the mana reduction, but the haste buff from PI will be wasted.
Really? Is this a PI specific thing, that it doesn't stack with BL / other >=20% haste buffs, or is it supposed to be a more general thing?
Mages all believe that Icy Veins stacks multiplicatively with Heroism / Bloodlust, so this is a bit of a shock to read.
Might be something with PI, because I also get "A more powerful spell is active." when trying to PI a Mage that has Icy Veins (and/or Arcane Power?) active.
Does not stack with Arcane Power. If Arcane Power is already active, a priest casting Power Infusion will receive an error message "A more powerful spell is already active." If Power Infusion is already active on the mage, activating Arcane Power will override it.
Does not not stack with Bloodlust/Heroism or other haste effects which can be applied to others.
You'd get that message trying to cast on a mage with Icy Veins up, not Arcane Power.
Yep, it's an Icy Veins thing. The reason it might be mistaken for Arcane Power is because most Mages macro the two spells together.
I would imagine that trying to PI a Mage while Bloodlust is up would give you the same problem, because, again, most Mages time their Arcane Power / Icy Veins / trinket 1 / trinket 2 macro during Bloodlust for max effect. So what happens when you try to PI yourself while Bloodlust is up?
Edit: It doesn't override Icy Veins because IV is a 20sec duration spell, most likely.
Edit 2: Actual question about Haste and Shadow Priests - what happens if you get a haste bonus after your DoTs are on the target? Do the DoTs start ticking faster, or is it only for those DoTs cast subsequent to your haste buff?
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Post by
OscarDivine
You are correct Panik8. I like to use
Wild Magic
myself. Regardless, it's really splitting some hairs here 'cause SWP still doesn't account for near as much damage as VT, DP and Mind Flay.
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364034
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Post by
xenoblad
When Shadow Word: Pain get's refreshed by a Mind Flay, it does re-calculate the Spellpower, the critrating however stays untill it get's manually recast. :)
you're right
Similar to crit, for anything that increases SW:P raw dmg% like arcane empowerment, SW:P is not recalculated so make sure you have all dmg% buffs before casting SW:P.
it's a good idea to switch to a staff with higher crit before casting SW:P then switch back to your main hand + off hand for more spell power after the casting of SW:P.
Just so you know, the extra crit from inner focus does not effect SW:P. However the casted SW:P with IF will still be a free spell. I heard this is because of the way inner focus is coded.
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