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Post by
wintercoat
I recently made my first healer. Prior to making her, I had made and leveled a lock. While leveling my lock, I had numerous healers tell me at the beginning of the dungeon to life tap all I wanted. At first I found it strange. Of course I was, it's how the class is played, though even after being told this i rarely tapped below half health(except with shamans at low levels because all they have is the one big heal). Now, on my healer(a shammy), I find myself having to encourage locks to life tap. I literally once had to force a lock to use life tap because he was afraid I was going to yell at him and refuse to heal him. Was this an isolated thing or are there really healers who act like that?
Post by
Aymeri
On my healer I tell Locks to tap too (and not all of them do, you're right on that), but I do know a few people who refuse to heal Locks that tap. I've asked why they didn't, and it's something like "they can drink when I do". Seems a bit silly to me. Between fights, sure they can, but during fights they should tap all they want and need. A Lock with no mana does no DPS, so...
Tbh, I do agree slightly with my friends' idea that Locks can drink when I do. I've had quite a few that would tap while I was Oom and drinking, so between fights, and they would wait for me to heal them. I will, to get the instance done, but it's quite annoying.
Post by
Kailhun
Yes, there are. I've never met them. But I'm sure they exist.
Had a warlock life tap to about a third of her health yesterday. It was simply a matter of throwing a renew on her every time. As she kept away from trouble (and we were to high for the instance anyway) there wasn't a problem.
Of course, if I'm low on mana or the tank's in trouble the lock doesn't get a heal. Priority is the tank and having the mana to keep the tank alive. Didn't really happen yesterday.
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Post by
Kelborn
At times it can put more strain on the healer when done at the wrong time. I don't care if you tap after combat, but if you tap till you're almost dead while we're fighting a pack... no, I'm not going to heal you when I have the tank to take care of. At 80 being overgeared and in Heroics it's not that big a deal, but for leveling healers it can cause a needed to heal to not get to the tank.
I've had some very, very squishy tanks when healing my druid. I have to keep all my hots on some of them (Rejuv, Regrowth, Wild Growth, Lifebloom) and then spam them with Healing Touch. In times like that, or when adds are pulled and it's mad chaos... I don't have the time to heal a life tapping warlock.
In normal circumstances however, it's pretty easy to healers to manage. I just toss a Renew on them when I'm on my Priest, and one Flash of Light covers it on my Pally. You have Drain Life, and if you tap in combat you should use that to heal yourself. Especially on a pull gone bad.
Post by
nihmue
I don't care if you tap after combat, but if you tap till you're almost dead while we're fighting a pack...
You have Drain Life, and if you tap in combat you should use that to heal yourself. Especially on a pull gone bad.
The locks that tap to near death mid-fight are bad locks.
However, most locks WILL tap right before and every 40 seconds or so during combat because of this:
Glyph of Life Tap
.
It is one of our best glyphs and gives an amazing buff that you should keep up at all times. It is an integral part of our rotation. Most locks will use Life Tap rank 1 for this to get the buff but losing the minimum of life for it. But even if you use the rank 8 version it is not going to take much of your health. Personally I don't expect my before-combat Life Tap to be healed.. as an affliction lock I will get that health back in no time through things like
Haunt
and
Siphon Life
(however I find that on my healer, I will always heal that tap before combat.. I want to give those locks some healer love haha).
Using
Drain Life
is something I hardly ever do, simply because I don't have to. At all. And it gimps my rotation. I will use it in emergency situations only and in some fights when I notice the healers struggling (at the
Decimate
of Stinky and Precious in ICC for example)
If you see a lock Draining Life a lot during a fight, either the lock, the healer, or both are doing something wrong.
.
Anyhoo.. locks not tapping.. I did run into a lotttt of them on my new healer. I kept telling them it was ok to tap. Up until level 50 or so many of them seemed to be deaf and clueless and kept emptying their mana and drinking.. oh well. Only so much I can do! I will tell you to tap as much as you want, but if you don't get it/don't want it... not much I can do :/
(also:
http://www.wowhead.com/forums&topic=150182
)
Post by
Soltris
I was a lock first and am now a healer. Most healers would just encourage me to go on tapping and I thought at the time it was strange that they'd actually want to have to heal me (but I became more aware of when I had a hot on me, and learned how much I could tap to gain the most from it). Now as a healer, I get it to some degree. In the average heroic I hardly need more than a rejuv and the occasional nourish to keep our overgeared tank going, and the rest of the time I'm pushing out some feeble dps or just waiting, so encouraging the lock to dump his life for mana is just something more to do and keeps boredom away.
I've never had a healer tell me *not* to tap though. I'm sure there are people like that out there somewhere, but they're rare enough to not have to worry about.
Post by
Lohr
I recently made my first healer. Prior to making her, I had made and leveled a lock. While leveling my lock, I had numerous healers tell me at the beginning of the dungeon to life tap all I wanted. At first I found it strange. Of course I was, it's how the class is played, though even after being told this i rarely tapped below half health(except with shamans at low levels because all they have is the one big heal). Now, on my healer(a shammy), I find myself having to encourage locks to life tap. I literally once had to force a lock to use life tap because he was afraid I was going to yell at him and refuse to heal him. Was this an isolated thing or are there really healers who act like that?
Don't have a problem when Warlocks life tap out of combat. I do although have a problem when they life tap abusively during combat and I quote "abusively".
Post by
KittyKat77
My hubby has an 80 warlock, and I have two 80 healers now.
I don't mind a warlock doing a bit of life tap here and there. I agree, I won't heal one who taps himself to death during a fight where the tank is taking damage and needs intensive therapy.
I can see how a healer who is leveling up, and already struggling to learn managing mana/keeping everyone up/not dying themselves would be pushed right to the brink by an inexperienced warlock who over-tapped during a bad pull and then went "STUPID HEALER WHY DON'T YOU DO YOUR _____ JOB AND _____ HEAL? RAAAGGGEE@*%$&*$%!"
That would make any healer a bit nervous of warlocks. If it was a new player who had minimal experience, that is the sort of situation that could put them right off healing entirely.
My first time low-level healing on my druid, I had a Really Bad Tank (warrior) who thought he was All That and wanted to pull the whole place in one go. There was also a mage who was high-level for the content, but did know how to play her class. The "tank" pulled way too many to handle, and then ignored the ones that ran right past him to eat my face. Thankfully the other druid on the run popped to bear form and saved my hide. The mage was holding back, but her damage pulled aggro away from the neglecto-tank without even trying.
This type of experience could easily sour a person on healing, but we managed, and after the run the mage praised my healing ability under such difficult circumstances. Having that recognition and simple consideration made me feel like continuing despite the difficulties.
Post by
Wildhorn
This is a stigma from old time because most warlock would literally life tap until they had 1% hp and basically was draining the healer mana to heal them back to full, forcing the healer to drink, forcing the group to wait.
Post by
Ballastik
I dont care if locks lifetap i used to tell them to tap all they want now i just keep a HoT on them at begining and end of pulls a havent had a lock tap to near death but if he did i dont think i would toss him anything id make him use one of his skills to get his HP back up
If the tap during a fight its ok as well but if they tap too much and tank is getting damage my pool is low he will die i dont care
unlike some of these other guys i like my locks to tap at the end of a fight i can afford to heal them real quick there are circumstances to this though
1 we wipe or lock dies i rez em he better not lifetap right away
2. just got out of a bad pull and all mana user are low/out better not lifetap cause i wont throw a HoT on you
p.s.s locks that dont SS dont get much heal love from me
Post by
Rilgon
My opinion w.r.t. Life Tap when I'm on my Shaman alt:
1) If you Life Tap in combat and I don't need it this cooldown, you'll get a Riptide. This is usually a sign that it's okay.
2) If you don't get a Riptide, this is probably because I'm having issues keeping people up - either stand near the tank so you get Chain Heal bounces or please stop and drink like I have to.
3) Out of combat, don't Life Tap to 5% and then expect me to heal you.
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312553
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Post by
Pachuca
I was grouped the other day with a level 72 Warlock who was using neither his Fel Armor nor Life Tap. He said he felt better drinking. I had to tell him that Life Tap is an essential spell to Warlocks and that he should pick up the glyph. I tried telling him about 3 or 4 times to apply his Fel Armor but he wouldn't do it.
Then there are the people who Life Tap their mana to full but keep on Life Tapping until their health is down to about 5%. They probably do it to keep the healer stressed...
These are usually the same people who use Life Tap immediately after being rezzed and expect to be healed to full instead of sitting and eating like everyone else.
My wife is leveling a resto druid at the moment and seems to react the same way any time there's a warlock in the group. The warlock will Life Tap until they're almost dead and she'll freak out and be like "woah what the F, how did he almost die?" I have to keep reminding her that it's a Warlock ability and not to panic when she sees a Warlock drop in health that quickly and that they'd be more than okay with just a Rejuvenation.
Post by
Hyperspacerebel
I think the problem is that new healers get new locks who haven't learned how to life tap correctly, and that creates a stigma of dislike in both parties.
Post by
MischievousLoki
Sometimes I get @#$%^y healers that tell my lock not to tap and sometimes I get timid warlocks who are worried I'm going to ^&*!@ at them for tapping when I play my healer.
Luckily, both of these are unusual cases.
Though I have had healers outright refuse to heal my warlock ever, tapping or not. These people need to get their heads out of their asses.
When I'm healing a group with a lock on my druid or priest I just make sure I keep a rejuv or renew on the lock all the time so he can tap regularly (which any competent warlock is going to do for glyph of life tap).
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Post by
NeoBlackheart
Anyhoo.. locks not tapping.. I did run into a lotttt of them on my new healer. I kept telling them it was ok to tap. Up until level 50 or so many of them seemed to be deaf and clueless and kept emptying their mana and drinking.. oh well. Only so much I can do! I will tell you to tap as much as you want, but if you don't get it/don't want it... not much I can do :/
(also:
http://www.wowhead.com/forums&topic=150182
)
when I am tanking on my druid if I ever hear a lock say OOM I say lifetap and continue pulling if they leave good I have one less idiot in my group.
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