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Post by
Crawshayi
Until your longest casting spell reaches 1sec cast time outside of Bloodlust and/or your GCD is down to 1sec... pretty sure this isn't possible without seriously gimping Spellpower
Post by
asakawa
it's a far more complicated question than can ever be answered with a number so both of the ones you've heard should probably be promptly ignored.
haste soft caps at various points where certain things occur to make certain spells as fast as they ever can be.
the most clear one is the point at which instant spells which use the global cooldown push the GCD to the minimum of 1 second. without other buffs it takes 1640 (50%) haste to achieve this.
you can imagine that with hero/lust, eradication, black magic, engineer glove enchant, speed potion, backdraft (etc. etc.) this point
can
be reached far before actually having 1640 haste from gear. however, to determine whether haste's value is actually diminished enough to be worth stacking other stats in favour of it you have to take an awful lot of things into account. how many spells are actually on the GCD and how many of your spells have longer cast times with higher caps? how often do you have the buffs that are pushing the cap lower? how often do the buffs stack up together?
essentially, there is not a point at which i can tell you "you have enough haste. now stack crit" (or whatever). it's not going to work like that and you should be very suspicious of anyone who tries to tell you something like that.
if you want an answer for your own character then sim it.
in the meantime, 957 isn't that much these days. you can stand to have more. you mention a spellstone so i assume you're demo or affliction. destro locks with that kind of haste probably want to switch to crit and should, of course, be using a firestone anyway.
Post by
Fingulfin
With
optimal raid buffs
, 45% is the soft cap for instants. I'm sitting on 1368 haste ATM, and only have 41%... But that is completely irrelevant as for the value of haste.
Just keep stacking haste until your
simulation
weighs another stat higher.
Post by
Crawshayi
With
optimal raid buffs
, 45% is the soft cap for instants. I'm sitting on 1368 haste ATM, and only have 41%... But that is completely irrelevant as for the value of haste.
Wouldn't optimal raid buffs put you at 8% if you include
or
on top of the totem? That would make the soft cap 42%
Post by
Fingulfin
Possibly, however I am unsure as to the exact function of Moonkin Aura/Sanc. Ret aura. I don't know if its a flat 3%, 3% of your haste value, if it stacks additively or multiplicity with the totem... I should look into that.
Post by
asakawa
haste
rating
acts additively with itself but the various sources of haste stack multiplicatively with each other.
in the example of moonkin/sanct + totem you're talking about a multiplicative stack.
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