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Post by
hellsslayer
First of all it's unholy not shadow...
The unholy part of the spec is a classic sticky unholy build. But the frost is just not gonna be nearly as good as a main unholy sub spec blood build.
99.99999999999999% of the time a custom build will not perform nearly as well as a classic, in-the-stickies build.
Just stick to the stickies if you want to perform optimally. If not then don't raid because that's how the rest of us DKs get a bad rep.
Post by
woohaa
that's actually a real build not a custom build 0/17/54 is the standard unholy/frost build.
usually it's better with a proc based weapon but some say it still works just fine with a standard 2hander. As far as which does more DPS you'll have to sim that.
A couple of things though about your character:
1. don't gem for Armor Pen or straight Crit. you should only put either a nightmare tear, str/crit, or a str/stam gem in to reach your meta reqs. then gem straight str. Generally you want to use the str/crit gem in your helm because the socket bonus is decent.
2. get your t9 chest piece so you can benefit from the bonus for a bit.
3. your cloak is a pvp cloak with a horrible enchant on it. Get a real cloak and put the haste enchant on it.
4. you have no enchant on your bracers or your shoulders.
5. your expertise will drop a bit when you change your chest out. you can either just let it be since it won't be a huge dps drop. or you can get the
might of the ocean serpent
(264 EoF cloak) which will fix your cloak problem and your expertise.
6. your hit is a bit high but seeing as you didn't gem or enchant for it i'd just let it be.
7. as far as your EoF's go. You can either spend them on the cloak like i said...or go for the chest, helm, or shoulders. i'd suggest getting the legs thru voa10-25 if you can. Becareful when replacing your helm. it's got a good amount of expertise on it and please don't buy the 264 sigil until it's your last choice.
Post by
apocalypsa
Except if you have a proc based weapon(for example, Bryntroll) the blood sub-spec variant is better. However,sinister596, you linked the EXACT frost sub-spec build, so either you have great knowlege of dk mechanics(or just common sense) or a great deal of luck. As your weapon isnt proc based I'd go with
this
spec.
Post by
hellsslayer
that's actually a real build not a custom build 0/17/54 is the standard unholy/frost build.
usually it's better with a proc based weapon but some say it still works just fine with a standard 2hander. As far as which does more DPS you'll have to sim that.
I was mistaken. Dps isn't really my thing, I'm more of a tank guy I guess.
So ignore my post. It's wrong.
But do fix your enchants/gems
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330884
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apocalypsa
Nope, not viable if you dont have a proc weapon. And frost subspec gives 20% more haste=more procs, and as most procs are shadow they also benefit fromt he 10% shadow dmg talent.
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woohaa
errr yeah it's also recommended to not go frost subspec until higher end gear. well i guess i should say that's what i've read but what do i know. i haven't read
past stickies on EJ
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woohaa
ah well don't know what your gear looks like so can't give you much info on that.
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woohaa
you can always sim to see which spec potentially gives you more dps in your spec =P
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woohaa
uhh your wearing tank gear...did you want us to check your tank gear? o.O
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