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I really need som help! (ret)
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Post by
Smu3
Hello there!
I am struggling with dps as a ret paladin in raids. I am usually in the bottom of the recount list in most encounters :<
My paladin is
Smu
.
I am planning on replacing
Coren's Chromium Coaster
with
Herkuml War Token
as soon as I can afford it (25 more EoF). I am still waiting for some drops;
Ahn'kahar Onyx Neckguard
,
Blood-Soaked Saronite Stompers
,
Polar Bear Claw Bracers
and t10 legs (unless we have time to do Valithria and I get
Scourge Reaver's Legplates
).
I use Seal of Vengeance except on trash where I use Seal of Command. I keep it up at 5 stacks on boss as long as I don't have to be elsewhere (e.g. adds on Putricide). The same goes for my
Libram of Three Truths
. I have installed Clcret to help keep track on my cooldowns, and use the proper rotation (Judgement > DS > CS > HoW > Consecrate > Exorcism > Holy Wrath). I have Speedy Actions as well. I know the fights and I do not screw up.
Here are some examples:
Lady Deathwhisper
,
Lord Marrowgar
,
Rotface
,
Festergut
(where I am actually not in the bottom, yay!) and
Putricide
.
I am just a recruit in my guild and I am worried that if my dps keeps being as low as it is, I will not get a chance to become a raider. I am constantly trying 840% and I am always focused, trying to do the best I can, and still my dps fall flat. I have been reading up on retribution paladins wherever I can find anything, and I still don't know what it is that I am doing wrong. That is why I have come to you, Wowhead, for some much needed help.
/Smu
Post by
pezz
You should have glyph of cons instead of glyph of SoComm.
You have a hit rating/stam gem despite being overcapped. In one or two places you've gemmed str/stam for a socket bonus when pure str would be better.
As a side note, I'm not sure why you went ten points into holy and didn't pick up AM, because that's the only reason to bother going so far into holy, but that won't really affect your DPS.
Post by
Smu3
I see your point with the str/stam, consider it changed. However, I have 266 hit rating, if I remove the 10 hit gem, I will be under cap by 7. I'd rather be overcapped by 3 than undercapped by 7.
The reason for me not picking up aura mastery is that we have several pallies in the raid, and I'm always assigned retribution aura. Granted, it doubles the effect of retribution aura, but only for 6 seconds, so I haven't really found it necessary. I might be wrong tho.
I usually use glyph of cons., but switched last night for a different purpose. It will be back later today tho.
Thanks for your feedback :)
Maybe I just suck at ret : (
Post by
dingbot1
Most of your logs show your DS hitting just as often or less often than CS, which says to me that you're not using the cooldown reset from 2 piece tier 10.
I also see a huge amount of misses, which tells me this isn't the gear you're currently wearing... Were you in pvp gear or something?
EDIT: Most of the misses are on Putricide, actually, so you can blame that on choking gas bombs.
Post by
Smu3
Wow, I had not noticed that. I will definately keep that in mind next time I am raiding. But I do know that I use DS as soon as I see it comes off cooldown/procs. Sometimes tho, I feel that it doesn't really reset that often, and sometimes it resets all the time. Is there something that can influence or hinder t10 bonus from proccing? Or is it a just a clean 40 % chance for it to reset?
Post by
dingbot1
I've had it reset 4 times global after global, and other times it doesn't reset for the entire cooldown. It is based on melee swings though, so haste does increase it some.
I haven't used CLCret, so I don't know how well it shows when it comes off CD, but keep an eye out.
Post by
Davidson
Most of your stuff looks fine, but you should be doin more than 6K in the raid...especially in 25man...
Maybe it's a finger clicking thing? Bear with me...a lot of DPS is just the actual physical mechanics...
1st of all, you have to keybind. If you're actually clicking the spells with your mouse...your DPS will suffer.
The best way is to bind your top 2 damage dealing abilities to your mouse wheel. I use Crusader strike for mouse wheel up and Divine Storm for mouse wheel down. Throughout the fight just move your finger up and down on the wheel. It should be a very fluid motion, and the game will register that as if you're mashing a button like nuts. Then just hit your judgments / exos / cons as CLC ret tells you.
Using this technique, I was able to do ~9.5K dps on Marrowgar in my last 25 man pugg in my off-spec that has much worse gear than yours.
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228908
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Post by
Davidson
Most of your stuff looks fine, but you should be doin more than 6K in the raid...especially in 25man...
Maybe it's a finger clicking thing? Bear with me...a lot of DPS is just the actual physical mechanics...
1st of all, you have to keybind. If you're actually clicking the spells with your mouse...your DPS will suffer.
The best way is to bind your top 2 damage dealing abilities to your mouse wheel. I use Crusader strike for mouse wheel up and Divine Storm for mouse wheel down. Throughout the fight just move your finger up and down on the wheel. It should be a very fluid motion, and the game will register that as if you're mashing a button like nuts. Then just hit your judgments / exos / cons as CLC ret tells you.
Using this technique, I was able to do ~9.5K dps on Marrowgar in my last 25 man pugg in my off-spec that has much worse gear than yours.
Why not bind judgment instead of cs?
CS comes off cooldown faster, so it gets the most benefit of the wheel. I guess it's not the 2 hardest hitters, but I think you get what I mean.
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228908
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Post by
Crackalackin
Seems like most of it's been covered. Just a little bit of advice though, don't disregard leather pieces. Leather pieces are often better than str as the massive crit bonus is enough to outweigh the loss of AP. I'm thinking Wodins Lucky Necklace would be better for you than the Ahn Kahar Onyx Neckguard if you have gold to spare.
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523741
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Post by
pezz
Salty is the fishing meta-achievement title.
You would have to unbind mouse scrolling in your keybindings menu, presumably.
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