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Upgrading from HCs and T9 to ICC (tank)
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Post by
GreatePier
Hi,
I've recently begun to look at raiding more seriously and with that in mind, I've begun to look a bit more at the "rate my tank" posts here and it seems most of them are steering away from the T10 chest. As this is the only T10 piece Ive picked up so far, this is starting to make me a bit nervous... did I mess up my gear already or is it still salvageable?
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As for content, Im not with a raiding guild proper, but we're on our way to completing our 10man team and hopefully start poking around ICC a bit.
Any tips and advice would be greatly appreciated.
Post by
slasher0161
People avoid it because cataclysmic is better. Also curiousity, what the @#$% is going on with your gemming and enchanting. Your gemming for some lousy bonuses using defence gems while you rock out a titanium plating on your shield? Your glyphs also... SoComm glyph is a best plausible... FOR LEVELING, it is completely @#$% for end game.
Why would you have grabbed the chest before the cloak or belt also, they would both be much bigger upgrades seeing how easy it is to either get the t9 chest of the 245 crafted chest. Anyway you have done what you have done and next time I would advise 10mins of research first.
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Post by
GreatePier
Thanks, but he's definitely right about waiting 10 minutes next time though ;)
I hadnt really paid attention to my Frost Emblems, so suddenly I had the Frost in my hand and the gleam in my eye . The Belt and Cloak will be next on my list though.
As for the ring (Mark of the Relentless I think?), I still have that in my bags, but I had to take the 213 one when I took the T10 chest to stay DefCapped. With some luck I might switch that out for the Ashen Verdict - Friendly ring soon.
As for Gems/Enchants, they've been tidied up a bit now that I respecced to a proper raiding spec, so GoSoComm is out as well (although, if you mainly run Heroics, GoSoComm isnt that bad at all IMO)
Post by
Lorkin
Get +275 Health on your chest vs +10 stats. Also try to get the
Indestructible Plate Girdle
crafted, mats should be pretty cheap nowadays.
Hopefully you should be at the 38k health unbuffed range for ICC10. With the 15% buff you should be good to go for ICC 10.
Get the frost cloak as soon as you get more emblems. You got the T10 chest already, and as folks have said not the best move. It would have been better if you went with the
Cataclysmic Chestguard
vs the T10 chest but too late now.
As far as spec you have essentially the same spec as most people cept for Seal of Command. I would pick that over 1/5 Conviction as Seal of Command is way better for trash tanking.
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Post by
GreatePier
Yeah, the Belt is definitely next on my list and fortunately, the Frost badges arent nearly as ellusive as they once were :)
Thanks all for the advice so far, also Slasher; as they say in Holland, a soft doctor makes for a festering wound ;)
Post by
zoomie
I've recently begun to look at raiding more seriously and with that in mind, I've begun to look a bit more at the "rate my tank" posts here and it seems most of them are steering away from the T10 chest. As this is the only T10 piece Ive picked up so far, this is starting to make me a bit nervous... did I mess up my gear already or is it still salvageable?
The major downfall for the T10 chest is the fact that it is 251 and you need a mark to upgrade it to 264. But lets look at the tier chest and gloves and compare them to the non set chest and gloves. Lets say that the tier pieces are 264. The tier gear has avoidance and hit rating and a 2 piece threat set bonus. The non tier has aviodance and expertise. Expertise is a little hard to come by for paladins in ICC until you get into some of the harder content, so a lot of times the 264 chest is better in terms of threat.
At the 264 level, you basically weigh the non tier which has expertise and a little bit more health vs the tier which has hit rating and a threat set bonus and the possibility of upgrading it to 277.
But if you aren't going to have a big chance at getting marks to ugprade the 251 tier to 264, then the non tier is better. If all you do is 10 man ICC then you won't be getting a mark until you kill the lich king and then kill saurfang, putricide, blood queen, sindragosa, or lich king on heroic 10 man. Or until you have some luck in a 25 man ICC pug on saurfang.
I chose the tier chest and gloves because I was eventually going to upgrade it to 277. Right now my chest is 277, gloves are still 264. And GG being human so swords/maces give me 3 expertise.
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Lorkin
The major downfall for the T10 chest is the fact that it is 251 and you need a mark to upgrade it to 264. But lets look at the tier chest and gloves and compare them to the non set chest and gloves. Lets say that the tier pieces are 264. The tier gear has avoidance and hit rating and a 2 piece threat set bonus. The non tier has aviodance and expertise.
Lets not forget about that lovely armor and extra socket!
T10 chest
vs
Frost Chest
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