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Dualwield Frost - Is this wrong?
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Post by
Attalker
Now I've seen plenty of specs including ones with 2/3 Blood Coaked, some without unbreakable armor and plenty with 3/5 Black Ice and alike. Wouldn't this spec be most promising as it provides most useful things of all specs?
http://www.wowhead.com/talent#jZG0exAMczf0MuzAofM0hxc:apkVMm
This is just my thoughts though.
Post by
Zokudu
The issue with that build is RP generation. Those points you mentioned are all hotly contested but if you find you have no RP issues (Have a resto druid or Disc Priest healing you) then dropping CotG will result in better dps. However if your leaving GCDs unspent because you lack RP then CotG will give you better dps.
Post by
Zxian
You definitely want to max out
Threat of Thassarian
.
I've personally picked up 3/5 BI, 2/2 CotG, and 4/5KM for my build. I was finding that with 5/5 KM, there were several times where the buff would overwrite itself before I had a chance to use it, and without 2/2 CotG, I'd be running out of resources. 4/5KM and 3/5 BI also worked out to more DPS than the other way around by the simcrafts.
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Post by
woohaa
there was a huge discussion on EJ and ensidia about using only 4/5 KM. most said that trying to use up all the procs ended up in a dps loss and going with 4/5 you didn't lose out on too many procs and could put the point somewhere more useful like blackice, endless winter, or merciless combat.
Post by
Attalker
Sorry for the 2/3 Threat of Thassarin. It's only a error when making the spec. I'll repost a new one.
http://www.wowhead.com/talent#jZG0IxNrczf0cuzAofM0hxc:apkVMm
Here's the new one I made up. It has most of the key DPS talents along with the RP generation talents.
EDIT: This seems to be the ultimate spec
http://talent.mmo-champion.com/?deathknight#flP1UWsZKKM6Rg
,aIS3Oe,11685.
Anything to discuss?
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Zxian
P.S. GoD can be a DPS loss if you have Latency issues.
Or if you don't have the sufficient gear to make it worth dropping the extra frost damage from GoIT. Simcrafts are the best way of telling you which too choose.
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Post by
Zxian
actualy i found myself using a 15/56/0 tallent wich is as followd:
http://www.wowhead.com/talent#jfV0VZG0exArczf0cuzAo
but i must admit i didnt try any frost+unholy spec just yet on 25 mans just because i dislike some of the talents
actualy i think the first 7 points are a total waste but that could be my opinion
Blood subspec will do less sustained damage than unholy subspec. While Vicious strikes may not be a huge damage boost, it still helps when you're not running GoD, and Virulence will make sure your Icy Touch and HB don't miss when you're melee hit capped.
Post by
d2thomas
actualy i found myself using a 15/56/0 tallent wich is as followd:
http://www.wowhead.com/talent#jfV0VZG0exArczf0cuzAo
but i must admit i didnt try any frost+unholy spec just yet on 25 mans just because i dislike some of the talents
actualy i think the first 7 points are a total waste but that could be my opinion
We've mentioned many times that 5/5 killing machine is a waste because it is just as effective as 4/5 killing machine. You may want to adjust that.
I ran your spec and a few typical cookie cutter (with BcB and subversion) spec through a simulator and this was the result;
Cookie cutter unholy subspec -
9965 DPS
Cookie cutter subversion spec -
9799 DPS
Your blood subspec -
9805 DPS
So in a vacuum it is less dps. I hope this helps you make some choices.
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