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Post by
Adamsm
Aye; people can have their Free Speech...but they should be prepared to get their teeth smashed in when their free speech goes up against someone else view point.
Post by
Magician22773
Aye; people can have their Free Speech...but they should be prepared to get their teeth smashed in when their free speech goes up against someone else view point.
You mean like when someone's views and speech on a religion, like....Wicca, goes against someone else's viewpoint, like...a group of Christian kids?
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240140
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Post by
Adamsm
Aye; people can have their Free Speech...but they should be prepared to get their teeth smashed in when their free speech goes up against someone else view point.
You mean like when someone's views and speech on a religion, like....Wicca, goes against someone else's viewpoint, like...a group of Christian kids?
As a group of Christian kids thought it was funny to try to beat my skull in all during high school...sure why the hell not.
Post by
Magician22773
Aye; people can have their Free Speech...but they should be prepared to get their teeth smashed in when their free speech goes up against someone else view point.
You mean like when someone's views and speech on a religion, like....Wicca, goes against someone else's viewpoint, like...a group of Christian kids?
As a group of Christian kids thought it was funny to try to beat my skull in all during high school...sure why the hell not.
Im not saying that it was right what they did, or that it would be wrong to feel the way you do. But it seems that you just took a very opposite viewpoint to what you usually do when it comes to violence.
Post by
Adamsm
Did I say I would be smashing someone's teeth in? All I was saying that if someone throws out comments that are vulgar/bigoted/racist/sexist, that person should not be surprised if someone else calls them out on it, or if the comments are truly horrendous, does beat them for them.
Again, there is Free Speech...but don't hide behind it, especially if the comments are made to inflame.
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240140
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Post by
Magician22773
Did I say I would be smashing someone's teeth in? All I was saying that if someone throws out comments that are vulgar/bigoted/racist/sexist, that person should not be surprised if someone else calls them out on it, or if the comments are truly horrendous, does beat them for them.
Again, there is Free Speech...but don't hide behind it, especially if the comments are made to inflame.
Look, I am not trying to justify what was done to you as right, nor would I degrade you if you
had
smashed their teeth in...they deserved it. Also, I agree with your premise...people that say or do things that cross a line deserve to face the consequences, and if that consequence is an ass whooping, so be it.
But, I think you have to feel one way or the other. I think we may have similar opinions on this, but just perhaps disagree on where the line that should not be crossed is.
The point here is, EluraE is upset about comments made on the internet, and you stated in your comment that they have the right to say those nasty things, but they also should be willing to have their teeth knocked out for saying them. This seems pretty contradictory to how you have been in the past, when it was your opinions and actions that may have been upsetting to another group.
Post by
Adamsm
And yet, if it upset anyone, they have the right to call me out on it. I agree with Elura about those stupid ass comments; but the morons who make them, can say them, but they shouldn't be surprised that people take offense and do call them out about it.
The fact is, what I truly hate are people who hide behind things like that; they know deep down what they are saying is hurtful, insulting, bigoted and possibly racist depending on the context...yet, they hide behind Free Speech, their Religions, their Beliefs and other things to try to justify the fact that the crap they spew does hurt other people and they shouldn't be surprised that someone does call them out on it.
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Post by
Sagramor
Hehehehe.
What I think is the real stupid part of not letting girls wear shorts, is that they're talking about teenage males. It won't matter what they are wearing. And
vice-versa
, by the way.
Post by
Skreeran
http://vimeo.com/64941331
Post by
Sagramor
http://vimeo.com/64941331
But I like The Matrix...
All in all though, that video seems like something they'd use to brainwash people in
Clockwork Orange
.
Post by
Skreeran
I don't think it's intended for brainwashing, I think it's an exaggeration used to illustrate problems in our culture.
Post by
Patty
While some of these are... tentatively sourced, the figures (especially those actually backed up) are pretty shocking (not in a :O way necessarily, but I'm sure you know what I mean. :P
Post by
Gone
I wasn't all that moved by much of that tbh. Several points of bias were glaring to me in the figures. For one, they only listed the number of women acquitted in the one scenario in the Florida survey. This is likely because revealing the whole number would reduce the percentage of women who are actually jailed for killing their partners, and take away from the overall shock effect of the piece. Also saying things like "Only males commit beating or strangulation homicides" which is not true at all. The proper way of saying that would be "Males are
far more likely
to commit beating or strangulation homicides
against their significant other
."
Of all the women incarcerated in that article for murdering their partners, about half claimed they were defending themselves at the time. While I'm sure some of those who claimed self defense were really defending themselves, I also have no doubt that many were not. Every criminal tries to put on some kind of a defense, and statistically, while some do get screwed over by the system, most of those that get convicted are guilty. Another problem with the figures is revealed here, that they go by the word of
convicted
criminals and take them as a fact rather than a claim when mentioning them again in later figured.
I also have to address the last bullet point. I think that the high morality rate of these children are more likely due to 75% of their mothers being drug addicts and prostitutes than the penal system.
Post by
Lepto
TheMediator started this thread by noting the inequality in higher (postsecondary) education between the genders in the high income countries. He (assuming the TheMediator is male) and others in this thread went on to discuss it in terms of 'feminism.'
As more women have entered the workforce in the past 40 years, so too have they accessed higher education to provide workforce-related opportunities at higher rates. The question is, why haven't men kept up to pace with them?
This issue has been studied, and many institutions of higher education are trying to address it. But there seems to be differences in motivation to gain higher education between the genders (see this NYTimes article for one example:
http://www.nytimes.com/2006/07/09/education/09college.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0
).
More data on this can be found at
http://nces.ed.gov/das/epubs/2005169/
and an interesting study at
http://www.nber.org/digest/jan07/w12139.html
I know more than one small private college who supports an (expensive, US-style) football program because it attracts male students to enroll and helps keep the college gender ratio closer to 50:50.
I heard the former President of my University talk about the challenge of male education in the US....why do we expect young males (and females too) to spend their days sitting in a classroom all day (whether in first grade or as a senior in college)? And is that behavioral expectation tougher on males that on females? (probably).
So let's not blame this disparity on women succeeding more; let's set the stage so that men can succeed too (but not by having women go back to second-class citizenship).
Post by
gnomerdon
i don't mind a 70% female 30% male ratio at any college university. :l
it just means that females care about their school work, and deserve to be up there, whereas the guys that don't make it in college, end up in a community college or workforce.
and with that, women deserve more, because in education, they are doing better. plus they keep the economy rolling more then men. women naturally like shopping than most men i think, and it helps the GDP.
Post by
Skreeran
http://youtu.be/uqtNSdDFGBM
Post by
Tenjen
if we wish to progress further as a species, we need to engage the potential of all demographics.
Leaving aside morals and ethics. its just bad business and bad progress. Its an awful artificial system based on false perceptions which do not apply to the reality of maximum development achieved.
For example. Managers put a great deal of merit into personality tests to judge/predict candidate effectiveness, when their actual merit is around 0.10/0.20 (on a max scale of 1). They put more merit into its output than say, organized interviews, which are 0.43/0.55 successful predictors of employee effectiveness. Potentially getting ineffective employee's because of false perceptions.
Sexism is a false perception. It skews the valuing system of an individuals effectiveness and enforces systems which sabotage the training, development and overall performance of that individuals potential and ability.
thus we require systems which avoid such skewing of data so as to be more effective at attaining, retaining, developing and engaging a larger pool of capable workers/citizens/etc.
this will lead to better output and avoidance of sabotage to capable individuals who can contribute with fewer hurdles to the development and invention of tech, political systems, science, policies of various types.
it is the simple fact of having data analysis that does not skew output.
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