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Healing/Resurrection in Lore
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Silverline
Just something I was curious about. How does one go about explaining the healers ability of healing/Resurrection in the game into something that might be used for lore, rp, and story based purposes. My only guess is that as far as healing goes, the body just mends as the magic washes over it (Or perhaps reverts to it's unharmed state before the injury took place) but what about the Resurrection?
To my memory, only twice in WoW lore has this actually happened, first with the whole Ashbringer/Scarlet Monastery interaction (Which I think is just an easter egg myself and isn't exactly true resurrection, seeing how it brings turns a Forsaken back into a human) and the ending fight with the Lich King himself.
It's just something I've always been curious about, especially since it doesn't make a lot of sense for a large number of NPCs to be angry at the Death Knights and the scourge if any priest at lv 10 can just bring them back.
Post by
Adamsm
Lorewise, no one has been resurrected; they have been brought back as Death Knights/Forsaken, but no one has regained their life after dying. In game resing is Game Mechanic only.
Healing is simple; the priest/mage/druid/paladin calls on the source of their power to repair and restore the damaged and broken bodies.
Post by
Patty
Hmm, but the Lich King fight; Tirion is a very powerful paladin, among the first, and he is also the wielder of the Ashbringer, I think that weapon - may - have resurrecting properties, but if that was the case...why didn't he res his son? :P
It leaves a lot to the imagination, but I think it's just a simple game mechanic =/= lore.
Post by
Adamsm
The Ashbringer doesn't 'resurrect' either Fairbanks or Arthas; it cleanses the Forsaken in the Cathedral, and sends his soul on to a final rest after watching the death of his murderer. It 'frees' Arthas at the end of his life, after destroying Frostmourne(?), and we watch him get a redemption he didn't deserve, neither of them come back to life, as again, there are no Lore Resurrections.
Post by
Patty
He resses us. :P
Post by
Orranis
Lorewise, no one has been resurrected; they have been brought back as Death Knights/Forsaken, but no one has regained their life after dying. In game resing is Game Mechanic only.
Healing is simple; the priest/mage/druid/paladin calls on the source of their power to repair and restore the damaged and broken bodies.
Medivh was, wasn't he?
I don't believe that rezing exists unless under very extreme purposes, such as goddamn Aegwynn.
Post by
Orranis
He resses us. :P
We don't exist, I'll remind you. We aren't canon. Just roleplay he brought us back from near death.
Post by
Patty
He resses us. :P
We don't exist, I'll remind you. We aren't canon. Just roleplay he brought us back from near death.
I know that; but technically from a lore perspective the "great champions" were killed, then freed from the Lich King's grasp before he could bend us to his will by Tirion, who killed Arthas. We don't exist technically, but we
are
those champions.
Post by
Silverline
Mmmm, alright. I was just kinda curious about that is all, especially for story purposes, considering I'm interested in doing a story within the Wow universe.
I could, however, see the res spells as a 'bringing them back from the brink of death' kinda thing, you know, kinda like how someone who flat-lines is more or less dead but can be brought back from that point if done quickly enough.
Another quick question, though, and this one is more from a RP standpoint. When dealing with dungeons and such, do you try to explain how you can go into it over and over to fight the creatures inside? Or do you just ignore it because, like the res spell, it's something made for the game and wouldn't quite work for the actual story involved?
Post by
Adamsm
Lorewise, no one has been resurrected; they have been brought back as Death Knights/Forsaken, but no one has regained their life after dying. In game resing is Game Mechanic only.
Healing is simple; the priest/mage/druid/paladin calls on the source of their power to repair and restore the damaged and broken bodies.
Medivh was, wasn't he?
I don't believe that rezing exists unless under very extreme purposes, such as goddamn Aegwynn.
That's... different; Aegwynn gave up 90% of her power to put her son's soul back into a body she created for him from the power of the Guardian...... bah, confusing, but going by that, it seems more like Medivh was a ghost, sealed away somewhere and she freed him.
Another quick question, though, and this one is more from a RP standpoint. When dealing with dungeons and such, do you try to explain how you can go into it over and over to fight the creatures inside? Or do you just ignore it because, like the res spell, it's something made for the game and wouldn't quite work for the actual story involved?That's came mechanics heh, the leaders of the dungeons die once and only once.
Post by
Silverline
That's came mechanics heh, the leaders of the dungeons die once and only once.
Ah, alright. I just asked because I heard something about a magical spell dealing with the Dragonflight that deals with time, the good ones. (Sorry, their proper name escapes my memory at the moment.)
Post by
Adamsm
That's came mechanics heh, the leaders of the dungeons die once and only once.
Ah, alright. I just asked because I heard something about a magical spell dealing with the Dragonflight that deals with time, the good ones. (Sorry, their proper name escapes my memory at the moment.)
The Bronzes; any instances where we end up fighting against a 'dead' boss, is either "You didn't kill him the first time through, it was a body double/clone/whatever" or, in the case of Onyxia, just revamped content done by Blizzard to bring back an old and 'loved' dungeon.
Post by
Silverline
The Bronzes; any instances where we end up fighting against a 'dead' boss, is either "You didn't kill him the first time through, it was a body double/clone/whatever" or, in the case of Onyxia, just revamped content done by Blizzard to bring back an old and 'loved' dungeon.
I must admit, I remember hearing it was more like a constant time loop or they had made it so that it was set up like a training ground for new heroes later on, but then again this is RP we're talking about so I take it is really up to you and your RP partners, ne?
Thanks for all the info though.
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