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Post by
Dysmetria
I'm a bit surprised at the number of selfish folks here who feel the LFD tool is nothing more than their own, personal badge farming creation tool. To portray that LFD is nothing more than a tool for overgeared toons to farm badges is a little off, wouldn't you say?
Actually it is the person too lazy to form their own group to down optional bosses that instead queues solo expecting 4 random strangers to waste their time helping them with those bosses that are the ones being selfish.
Ironically that is also the one that usually QQs about the problems they themselves cause in threads like this. Selfish brats tend to whine when they don't get their way, like the one the OP mentioned.
Ummm...no...it tells you if the instance is in progress or not.
And for all you people who keep saying form your own group, that's not always possible, which is why the queue exists in the first place. Yes, we all understand what your saying. No, it doesn't help the issue.Yes, it tells you that the instance is in progress. I'm not sure what your point is tho, they should drop and requeue and hope they don't get another in progress after waiting another 30 mins? It still doesn't ensure that the 4 random strangers they get grouped will will all be willing to waste their time helping with it.
Sure it isn't always possible to form your own group, you may have to wait until primetime to get 4 likeminded people that want the same achievement or quest or boss drop.
Post by
Hyperspacerebel
I'm not sure what your point is tho, they should drop and requeue and hope they don't get another in progress after waiting another 30 mins?
Yes. If they're going in for a certain boss, and the dungeon that pops has enough bosses down that your boss is probably down too...isn't it obvious?
Post by
Dysmetria
I'm not sure what your point is tho, they should drop and requeue and hope they don't get another in progress after waiting another 30 mins?
Yes. If they're going in for a certain boss, and the dungeon that pops has enough bosses down that your boss is probably down too...isn't it obvious?What's not obvious is your point. Are you trying to say sitting in a queue for potentially hours before getting an uncleared run and then trying to convince 4 strangers to waste their time to do a boss they want nothing from is somehow better than simply waiting till primetime and forming your own group first?
Post by
Hyperspacerebel
I'm denying your premise/assumption/whatever it is:
We didn't sign up to do a full run
Post by
Dysmetria
I'm denying your premise/assumption/whatever it is:
We didn't sign up to do a full runUh, it isn't a premise or assumption for the very thing you commented about. We can and do get put into a partially cleared runs, therefore we obviously aren't signing up to do a full run. I know I love it when I get a partially cleared run as I get emblems of triumph and frost even faster from those.
This wasn't a "is it right" thread. If young rogue had said he needed an achievement or a drop I would have been happy to detour to said boss. He wasn't looking for either, he was farming emblems, same as us. The issue is... which is faster?Sorry, I wasn't trying to derail your thread but like the whining rogue, this subject causes a lot of people to get upset over basically nothing.
The issue is it is faster for you, and slower for the rogue or any DPS that mistakenly queues solo to farm triumphs. If he wanted faster emblems he should have stuck with you and did more runs, or formed his own group first, as either way avoiding the queue for a DPS is far faster when farming triumphs, whether they choose to farm less efficiently by doing optional bosses or not.
Post by
Hyperspacerebel
I'm denying your premise/assumption/whatever it is:
We didn't sign up to do a full runUh, it isn't a premise or assumption for the very thing you commented about. We can and do get put into a partially cleared runs, therefore we obviously aren't signing up to do a full run. I know I love it when I get a partially cleared run as I get emblems of triumph and frost even faster from those.
YOU
don't, maybe. You are making a generalization that isn't true.
I
never enter a partially cleared dungeon. The guy who needs a certain boss sure won't risk it.
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Post by
Dysmetria
YOU
don't, maybe. You are making a generalization that isn't true.
I never enter a partially cleared dungeon.What did you do when you didn't have a choice before Blizz added the warning? You had no idea till you entered that it was halfway done, and knew fully well that was a possibility before queueing. So either you were not queueing at all for the first few weeks till they added the warning, or you were in fact queueing and not for a full run.
There is also the matter that people can and do skip the optional bosses. If you queue now knowing people in your group will most likely want to skip them and some will flat out ignore your request to do so like the OP, then again you aren't queueing for a full run. You are queueing hoping you can convince 4 random strangers to go out of their way to give you one. Also, you are taking the entire "generalization" out of context as it was responding to what someone else said.
The simple fact of this matter is if you want to farm emblems of triumph efficiently, or do achievements, quests, and/or get blue drops from optional bosses, then you are best served to form your own group to do so. It's common sense, will get you what you want faster, and is also courteous to your fellow players.
Post by
Hyperspacerebel
Again, que times shouldn't even be a part of this discussion. You cant say you're farming emblems without being grouped with a tank. Thats like digging a ditch with a fork.
Um, no. I already answered this.
What did you do when you didn't have a choice before the added the warning? You had no idea till you entered that it was halfway done, and knew fully well that was a possibility before queueing. So either you were not queueing at all till for the first few weeks till they added the warning, or you were in fact queueing and not for a full run.
I in fact wasn't playing WoW during the time when the tool came out.
There is also the matter that people can and do skip the optional bosses.
Some people do, yes.
I don't. I don't even understand the concept. I'm playing WoW to kill things, why would I skip killing things?
The simple fact of this matter is if you want to farm emblems of triumph efficiently, or do achievements, quests, and/or get blue drops from optional bosses, then you are best served to form your own group to do so. It's common sense, will get you what you want faster, and is also courteous to your fellow players.
That's not always an option.
Post by
Dysmetria
That's not always an option.Then simply accept the fact that downing those optional bosses is not necessarily going to be an option when queueing solo.
You are more than welcome to ask, and if everyone else feels like going out of their way to help you then be grateful. If not, simply get over it instead of getting upset about it.
You could have avoided the situation entirely by simply waiting till you could get a group of likeminded people. We did, which is why we are not usually willing to waste our time now to help random strangers that are too lazy or impatient to do the same.
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Post by
Hyperspacerebel
Then simply accept the fact that downing those optional bosses is not necessarily going to be an option when queueing solo.
You are more than welcome to ask, and if everyone else feels like going out of their way to help you then be grateful. If not, simply get over it instead of getting upset about it.
I honestly don't understand what you are saying. That those who don't want to do the boss have a greater say in it? Why? I mean, at this gear level I can practically solo any heroic boss on anything but my healer. Why does the guy who doesn't want to do it take precedent?
Edit: Stupid iPhone changing words on me -_-
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Post by
aFluffyFartBall
i dnt like to skip easy NON TIME CONSUMING bosses. but in Old kingdom and Halls of Stone i really skip them.. because the trash content is too mind numbingly huge lol
Post by
Hyperspacerebel
i dnt like to skip easy NON TIME CONSUMING bosses. but in Old kingdom and Halls of Stone i really skip them.. because the trash content is too mind numbingly huge lol
What? 1 pull for Maiden, 2-3 for the rock.
Post by
Dysmetria
I honestly don't understand what you are saying. That those who don't want to do the boss have a greater say in it? Why? I mean, at this gear level I can practically solo any heroic boss on anything but my healer. Why does the guy who doesn't want to do it take precedent?The person that doesn't want to do most anything takes precedent. If the person wanted to do ian optional boss, they should have formed their own group beforehand for all the many reasons previously mentioned.
Of course you don't understand what I am saying tho, when logic and common sense foil a flawed argument, feigned stupidity is often the next tactic a forum toll tries to take.
I'm sure the irony has been mentioned, but what is patient about wanting to zerg through the instance as fast as possible?That isn't irony, as it isn't about patience, it is about efficiency. We do them as fast as possible so we can get what we want and move on to the other things we want to do.
What is ironic is that the people that QQ about these issues are the ones that are causing them to begin with.
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91278
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Post by
Hyperspacerebel
The person that doesn't want to do most anything takes precedent. If the person wanted to do ian optional boss, they should have formed their own group beforehand for all the many reasons previously mentioned.
You haven't given any reason why they take precedent. What about the guy who just wants to down the first boss? Does he take
uber
precedent?
Of course you don't understand what I am saying tho, when logic and common sense foil a flawed argument, feigned stupidity is often the next tactic a forum toll tries to take.
You're saying "I'm right you're wrong." You haven't given any valid reasons.
Post by
Dysmetria
You're going to have to explain the distinction. You are being impatient by saying "If you don't go at this pace because it is most efficient, GTFO".Wanting to do something efficiently is not impatience. It is the best use of your time and something you should strive for in real life as well as in a video game like WoW as both are full of time sinks.
Them not wanting to form their own group like we were patient enough to do, and instead queueing solo and trying to get us random strangers to waste our time to help them instead does make them impatient. Or lazy. Or selfish. Instead of nitpicking one specific word, choose whichever you prefer.
You haven't given any reason why they take precedent. What about the guy who just wants to down the first boss? Does he take
uber
precedent?
You're saying "I'm right you're wrong." You haven't given any valid reasons.Simple common sense. Look at it like rape:
It is unfair to expect someone to do something they don't want to do. It is perfectly fair to expect you to not do something you want to do, when others involved don't. You should form your own group of people that actually want to do it instead.
*Sigh* I don't know why I bother explaining simple concepts to the purposefully ignorant. They obviously prefer to remain that way.
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