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What's the typical problem with Shadow Priest DPSers?
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sagnheiili
But if you aren't primarily shadow, don't give shadow advice.
You can leave. Now.
I was going to leave it go, but since you decided to turn this hostile (late response, internet was down for a day, damn you AT&T) I could, in theory, point out your welfare gear and lack of ICC progress.
In theory of course. Because that would just be rude, and would point out that, seeing as you have NO experience in end game content, that your opinion in matters of shadow priests IN end game content is hearsay at best, wrong at worst.
But I won't do that, that's just cruel.
Again, for the THIRD time: Yes, clipping mind flay is ON PAPER a real and viable option and CAN increase your dps.
In fairly decent gear (ICC25/4pc T10) my mindflay is at about 1.9 unbuffed. (been a few days since I logged on, maybe lower).
Do the math yourself, but between latency/server lag hiccups/simple human error and reaction time, the risk vs reward goes in favor of the careful person who allows their mindflay to fully tick, rather than the guy who decides to clip.
Let's say you clip it perfect EVERY single time you have the chance, you're going to gain a net DPS increase that's noticeable but far from game breaking. Make a few mistakes (clipping to early/clipping to late) and you end up lowering your dps.
Yes, posts on shadowpriest.com say that clipping = more DPS.
They also say it's not worth it because of the sheer RvR factor.
Don't be hostile Sinespe, or others might be to.
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Paolo
Wow, you really rose above it there. I'm impressed.
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sagnheiili
Oh, one more thing to add before I sign off from this thread forever, not caring if anyone comes to bang their fists on the wall screaming/trolling/wronging? is that a word.
Don't forget that a 2 tick mind flay is 33% less mana efficient than a 3 tick mind flay. Granted we should never EVER have mana problems (between our shadow friend ((not a typo)) and glyph of dispersion).
But if you want the facts as existing and as presented, you can't ignore it.
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MegaVolt
From here:
http://elitistjerks.com/f77/t84746-shadowpriest_theorycraft_3_3_edition_i_get_little_help_my_friends/
Set Bonus Combat EP
T8 2/5 114.13
T8 4/5 149.56
T9 2/5 111.32
T9 4/5 87.15
T10 2/5 194.0
T10 4/5 376.0
Definately go 4t10.
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OscarDivine
sagnheiili your epeening is getting really trite here. I don't care if you're a lvl 1 priest or a lvl 80 priest with Arthas' head in your backpack just for kicks. If you don't like what you're reading in our forums, then YOU can leave. Nobody's forcing you to read our swill.
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OscarDivine
Barn, I'm happy to have been assistance to you even without flashy numbers and a giant epeen sticking out my keyboard.
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MegaVolt
Not enough said, at all. We are on-par with the other two magic-based hybrid DPS classes, and on stationary fights melee classes, both hybrid and pure, are designed to beat casters. There are balanced reasons why we do the DPS that we do. The way you say it implies we are right at the bottom; we're not (and never have been in Wrath).
As far as I know shadow is actually quite a bit above the two other hybrid magic based dps classes. Both Druids and Shamans are suffering even in tank'n'spank encounters. Additionally they both have far bigger problems on movement heavy fights than Priests.
If you check Muqqs videos you will actually see shadow Priests topping the charts in some hard modes because of their insane AoE/multi-DoT damage (used on e.g. the ship, for Saurfang adds or Lich King ghosts) and because they can cheat fight mechanics so easily with Dispersion (e.g. Unchained Magic).
By the way I completely agree with your statement that the own progress doesn't make posts here valid or invalid. Theoretically someone who has never even played WoW can analyze all skills and post the mathematical truth or run simulations and draw conclusions from that.
That being said I think sagnheiili did look at the right profile. Your Priest hasn't really seen much in ICC.
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