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I think blizzard went to far this time (Thrall related)
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Post by
306612
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Post by
Adamsm
Instead of yelling and screaming "ZOMG They're killing the Horde! They're killing Thrall!" let's see where the new information is going, what's actually going to happen, and then go from there.
You gotta admit that, from the little perspective we're given, it's not exactly going to be fun. I'm hoping Garrosh stops being HURR DURR and starts being slightly better.
At least he reinforces Zoram'gar.
Well, yeah, but still, freaking out on like a quarter of the information isn't good for anyone.
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306612
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Post by
Adamsm
Well, yeah, but still, freaking out on like a quarter of the information isn't good for anyone.
That's why I like races that are inconsequential to the grand scheme of things! Go Belfs, Trolls and Gnomes!
Heh, Draenei too.
Post by
306612
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Post by
Patty
<snip>Who are you and what have you done with the real Darkton?If the Broken Front is anyone's fault - it's Varians for declaring war on the Horde.
Uhh, no, I would say its the Horde's fault for deciding to attack the Alliance when they would do it either way.
'Its what it means to be Horde', from what I'm told.If Varian had not declared war after Wrathgate, I am sure the probability of the Broken Front happening would be much lower. Therefore, we
can
assume that it probably wouldn't have happened on the scale that it did
if
Varian had made the decision not to go to war.
as patty mentioned,, the alliance has as much potential (if not more so) than the horde to be bad, but blizzard REFUSES to touch these plot-arcs and develop them..
Ehh... 'potential'? I think you just
want
to see them as bad guys, there is not really much of a matter as 'potential'.
There
is
potential. As I said, the only difference is that Blizzard has been a bit lazy with the
many
potential story-lines which
could
have popped up.
Post by
344679
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Post by
taurenmoo812
im sick and tired of the horde being made out to be the innocent Misunderstood bad guys, who the snobby cruel alliance picks on because their different. thats so cliche. The alliance has some skeletons in the closet, but the horde is BORN out of bloodshed and darkness!
the only pure race is the tauren, they are the only race that can be made out to be any sort of victim.
And its true, that the humans have their theives and what not, but they also have a whole different flipside of their society, of devoted good doers. Look, the orcs have thrall, but other than him and Saurfang, you could count on your hand the number of orcs who hold peace at a high priority, and truly care about being good. you have shamans, and (i read lord of the clans) though they are taught to have a respect for living things, and though shamanism is innately spirtual, shamans often are unconcerned with ethics. Shamans aren't Paladins, who give up their whole lives to do good, their just the wise men of the village. Thrall is a one of a kind orc. Uther is a example of a good Paladin, or priest.
History has shown, that the alliance has been on the good side of conflicts. there is stuff to work with for them to be evil, but there is so much more to work with for them to be good. and there is stuff to work with for the horde to be good... but so much more for them to work with to be evil.
And their not just "Making" the horde "Look" evil. their Making it evil. the factions are what they are, dont talk about fair. sue me if i want to have a decent, consistent good-guy bad guy thing going on. im not saying the horde is totally evil, or the alliance is totally good, but i would say the alliance is definately more good than the horde
Your post is both self opinionated and counter productive.
Breaking down what you said, your basicly saying the horde ARE the bad guys and the alliance ARE the good guys because thats how you see it, that well they both have some shreads of light and dark, one side it evil the other good.
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229054
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Post by
Rankkor
Let's say for a moment that I agree with you, that the "alliance is more good than the horde", wouldn't you balance? The answer appears to be no and such shows that you're biased towards the Alliance.
QFT and for awesomeness.
+1 to delt.
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Post by
Monday
That obviously doesn't necessarily mean that Varian and the other leaders are "lolevil", this also applies to Garrosh and other war supporters - Horde side - as well.
As far as Garrosh is concerned, we've yet to see any redeeming value in the git. Then again, the people who said he was his father's son couldn't be more right as I'm hoping he dies doing something worthy of Grom's awesomeness.
If he does something worthy of Grom's awesomeness... OMG DO NOT LET HIM KILL DEATHWING.
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451455
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Post by
Orranis
well well well, now THIS is something I DID NOT saw comming........
but still, your example is much better than the one of the horde, because on your example, edwinn would had taken stormwind illegitimally, wich of course means it's temporal, and varian will obiously make a glorious return.......
but on the horde side, thrall actually appoints garrohs as warchief........ wich could (dear god I hope not) mean he could remain there permanently.
what I actually asked is, what would you feel like if varian was replaced PERMANENTLY by a total jerk?
that varian is shoved into a raid instance that will eventually be buried and forgotten (how many people REALLY do pre-bc or TBC raids these days?) and the throne of stormwind remains in the hands of a jerk that doesn't deserves it for good?
the horde started with thrall, and the horde should remain with him forever, till he dies of old-age or something.........
stepping down due to some crisis is not the way I wanted thrall's rule to end, :S it feels sooooo anti-climatic.
That seems a little backwards to me. Stepping down/Dying because of a major crisis compared to slowly dying of old age is anti-climactic?
Post by
taurenmoo812
im sick and tired of the horde being made out to be the innocent Misunderstood bad guys, who the snobby cruel alliance picks on because their different. thats so cliche. The alliance has some skeletons in the closet, but the horde is BORN out of bloodshed and darkness!
the only pure race is the tauren, they are the only race that can be made out to be any sort of victim.
And its true, that the humans have their theives and what not, but they also have a whole different flipside of their society, of devoted good doers. Look, the orcs have thrall, but other than him and Saurfang, you could count on your hand the number of orcs who hold peace at a high priority, and truly care about being good. you have shamans, and (i read lord of the clans) though they are taught to have a respect for living things, and though shamanism is innately spirtual, shamans often are unconcerned with ethics. Shamans aren't Paladins, who give up their whole lives to do good, their just the wise men of the village. Thrall is a one of a kind orc. Uther is a example of a good Paladin, or priest.
History has shown, that the alliance has been on the good side of conflicts. there is stuff to work with for them to be evil, but there is so much more to work with for them to be good. and there is stuff to work with for the horde to be good... but so much more for them to work with to be evil.
And their not just "Making" the horde "Look" evil. their Making it evil. the factions are what they are, dont talk about fair. sue me if i want to have a decent, consistent good-guy bad guy thing going on. im not saying the horde is totally evil, or the alliance is totally good, but i would say the alliance is definately more good than the horde
QFT
You know it doesn't surprise me dark that you just say QFT to someones post whos opinion is so one sided its falling off the page, neither being constructive or balanced.
It also shows you put how in some posts you can pretend to think something good of the horde characters, then then turn it right away like this.
In other words, all opinions aside, this is completely alliance bias.
Post by
Adamsm
im sick and tired of the horde being made out to be the innocent Misunderstood bad guys, who the snobby cruel alliance picks on because their different. thats so cliche. The alliance has some skeletons in the closet, but the horde is BORN out of bloodshed and darkness!
the only pure race is the tauren, they are the only race that can be made out to be any sort of victim.
And its true, that the humans have their theives and what not, but they also have a whole different flipside of their society, of devoted good doers. Look, the orcs have thrall, but other than him and Saurfang, you could count on your hand the number of orcs who hold peace at a high priority, and truly care about being good. you have shamans, and (i read lord of the clans) though they are taught to have a respect for living things, and though shamanism is innately spirtual, shamans often are unconcerned with ethics. Shamans aren't Paladins, who give up their whole lives to do good, their just the wise men of the village. Thrall is a one of a kind orc. Uther is a example of a good Paladin, or priest.
History has shown, that the alliance has been on the good side of conflicts. there is stuff to work with for them to be evil, but there is so much more to work with for them to be good. and there is stuff to work with for the horde to be good... but so much more for them to work with to be evil.
And their not just "Making" the horde "Look" evil. their Making it evil. the factions are what they are, dont talk about fair. sue me if i want to have a decent, consistent good-guy bad guy thing going on. im not saying the horde is totally evil, or the alliance is totally good, but i would say the alliance is definately more good than the horde
QFT
You know it doesn't surprise me dark that you just say QFT to someones post whos opinion is so one sided its falling off the page, neither being constructive or balanced.
It also shows you put how in some posts you can pretend to think something good of the horde characters, then then turn it right away like this.
In other words, all opinions aside, this is completely alliance bias.
Heh, pot calling kettle?
Post by
taurenmoo812
Heh, pot calling kettle?
You know thats not true. You being someone who sees things from a neutral pov, something like someone making a post saying why he thinks the horde is the evil race, and the only thing he has to back it is an alliance only pov.
If I were that ignorent, I'd make a post saying
all
alliance are just a load of bigoted, self rightous hypocrites. If you can link anywhere I've said that I'll take my hat off to you.
Rather, I say who in the alliance is that way, and then who isn't. Thats the factor of greys instead of black and white.
Post by
Monday
Heh, pot calling kettle?
You know thats not true. You being someone who sees things from a neutral pov, something like someone making a post saying why he thinks the horde is the evil race, and the only thing he has to back it is an alliance only pov.
If I were that ignorent, I'd make a post saying
all
alliance are just a load of bigoted, self rightous hypocrites. If you can link anywhere I've said that I'll take my hat off to you.
Rather, I say who in the alliance is that way, and then who isn't. Thats the factor of greys instead of black and white.
Aye mainly your feud is just with Varian...
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229054
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Post by
Adamsm
Heh, pot calling kettle?
You know thats not true. You being someone who sees things from a neutral pov, something like someone making a post saying why he thinks the horde is the evil race, and the only thing he has to back it is an alliance only pov.
If I were that ignorent, I'd make a post saying
all
alliance are just a load of bigoted, self rightous hypocrites. If you can link anywhere I've said that I'll take my hat off to you.
Rather, I say who in the alliance is that way, and then who isn't. Thats the factor of greys instead of black and white.
Hey, just saying Tauren. *holds up hands in defense of himself, but grins anyways*
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